At what point do you guys think one should seriously consider pitch accent, beyond awareness that it exists? I was just looking at Dougen’s pitch accent course on patreon, but felt it might be a bit early to buy it given I’m not speaking at all yet. I already speak another language with pitch-acce…

Sort of long answer as someone who is actually studying pitch accent regularly: How much time you should put into pitch accent is (obviously) going to be proportional to how important it is to you. All learners are going to have lopsided skill sets prioritizing whats important to them (e.g. great a…

Everyone has an accent whether it’s in their own native language or their other languages. Sure it’s great to sound like a native speaker, but I’ve got lots of friends who speak fantastic English albeit tinged with another accent. If anything, I just think it adds to their charm. Of course, when I e…

Mmmm… I’d say accent and pitch are different beasts with Japanese. Having a “foreign” accent is fine I’m sure, however using the wrong pitch could make understanding difficult as one might be saying the wrong words if the pitch is incorrect (different pitch → different word than what was intended).…

I guess I’m using the term accent loosely but pitch is certainly a feature of an accent. When I hear Chinese native speakers speaking English I’m sure their sense of pitch impacts on how they sound in English.

I think sentence intonation can be learned and practiced alongside pitch accents, but there still be some needs to have basics (so shadowing might be the closest). Also, pitch accents need notion of the following particles at the very least, not just a sole vocab audio. About the goal of learning p…

[image] Daisoujou: Unfortunately I can’t really apply it because while they did manage some improvement, the methodology used this custom purpose built programs which IIRC did things like show waveforms while letting people listen to audio, showing their own while they mimicked it, etc. Could…

[image] Lisaveeta: I guess I’m using the term accent loosely but pitch is certainly a feature of an accent. When I hear Chinese native speakers speaking English I’m sure their sense of pitch impacts on how they sound in English. Fair enough :slight_smile: I tend to separate the two (pitch as…

[image] mrcrab: Could probably just use something like Audacity (or whatever came after it) to do this, no? I appreciate the idea, and you’re probably not wrong! It passed the point where it would be enough work I figured I’d rather put the time into the rest of Japanese and shelve pitch acce…

Mmm, I’ve wondered in the past about that kind of training tool, but as you say it’s a lot of work to try to put something together. I think I would probably start with Praat since it already supports pitch and formant analysis, but since I’ve never looked at it I don’t know if it would be easy to b…

Regarding kotu.io I am trying to do the reproduction one but it feels like there is something wrong with it. For pitch patterns which shift down on the last mora, no matter what I say it is saying I am staying flat even if I literally do the most dramatic downshift in pitch possible going from norm…

Ok I jumped into this rabbit hole yesterday and am going crazy. I tried the quiz on kotu.io and got so mixed results. At the beginning I was stuggling and getting 50% right. Then I thought it clicked and got a lot right in a row like 10 to 15 questions and suddenly I got much worse and did nearly e…

At what point should one consider pitch accents?

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A master list is available here, but it’s huuuuge:

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At what point should one consider pitch accents?

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