April 26th Daily Reading ブラックジャックによろしく: Community Reading Exercise

〜も here means “too”, ヒマ (暇) means “free time”. So it’s impossible because he has neither the free time nor money.

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Thanks a lot for the corrections! Learned something new, much appreciated! I forgot to put in ヒマ, you’re right. As for ワケ, the katakana lured me into thinking it was simply vocabulary.

Myriaーさん, I think you mean this 訳【わく】= conclusion from reasoning.

I’ll claim A.
《無理だよ》
That’s impossible.

Well some of them need to be easy sometimes as I had already seen this one.

My daily 3 hours is done. It’s up to you guys to finish up the page, you can do it!

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Well, I have a bit of time, but let’s go with B.

ねえ出久根くん
さっきの教授の執刀って
何の意味があったのかな…?

Vocabulary:
ねえ hey
出久根くん Dekune-kun
さっき before, previously (先 slurred)
教授 professor
執刀 surgical procedure/operation
何 what
意味 meaning
あった had

I don’t know how much details I’m supposed to add, so I’ll just go straight to the interpretation:
Hey Dekune-kun
That surgical procedure (reference to cutting open the patient) by the professor just before,
was there any meaning to it?

Then C:
ウワサじゃ あの教授の手術はいつも皮膚切開だけらしい…
普段はウナギの解剖実験ばっかしてるって

Edit: Note that じゃ is separated from あ

Vocabulary
ウワサ (噂)rumor
じゃ ->では slurred
手術 surgery
いつも always
皮膚 skin
切開 cutting open, incision
だけ only
らしい (modifier for “it seems”)
普段 usual
ウナギ eel
解剖 dissection
実験 experiment
ばっか only (ばかり slurred)
してる (している slurred)

Interpretation:
The rumor has it that that professor only ever performs the skin incision.
Usually, he’s only doing eel dissections (based on what people say).

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Hi again Naphtalene,

Thanks for participating.

As for your inquiry, it’s a good question. I explain things in great detail when I’m not sure and I want my thinking to be bare for other people to point out where my reasoning is incorrect.

I hardly know you at all but you come across as pretty advanced. In that case, you can explain in detail your reasoning for other people for less advanced people to learn or can keep it brief if you’re just looking for casual practice. Either way is fine, there’s no hard rules really.

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Sure, I guess people can always ask if they need clarification…

Hm, I guess I don’t need the practice, though, so I should probably leave the rest to others. I really like the idea of those threads, so I wanted to contribute, but I feel that way would be counter-productive :upside_down_face:

PART D

《だって30年間手術ミスがない人なんだろ……?》

VOCAB:

*だって:だ+という:The dictionary translation is just “but”.
I would like to give my idea which would translate as: “Talking about this/ mentioning this”, which will be followed up by a sentence that tries to rebut the hearsay his colleague dropped before.
https://www.imabi.net/ttetattedatte.htm

*30年間(さんじゅうねんかん): Thirty years (timespan)

*手術(しゅじゅつ): surgery

*ミス:mistake

*が:Particle the “Subject” to the Verb ない that comes after.

*ない:Negative form of だ/です.
Example: なになにがない。-> Something doesn’t exit.

*人:Person

*なん:Particle implying ??? (please help me here)

*だろ:Informal form of でしょう:“it seems like this/ I think it is like this”.

PUTTING IT TOGETHER:

だって:“But”

30年間手術:“thirty years of surgery”

ミスがない人:“a Person who doesn’t make mistakes”

なんだろう……?: “isn’t it like this?”

WHOLE SENTENCE:

“But having 30 years of surgical experience means they should not make any mistakes anymore, right?”

or

“But people who have 30 years of surgical experience don’t make any mistakes anymore, do they?”

Looking forward to suggestions and corrections! :slight_smile:

Correction by @Naphthalene
“But he is a person who hasn’t made a surgical mistake in 30 years”

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PART E

①《30年間皮膚切開だけ》
②《確かに矢取してないよね……》

VOCAB:


*30年間(さんじゅうねんかん): Thirty years (timespan)

*皮膚(ひふ):skin

*切開(せっかい):incision

*だけ:particle implying “only”


*確かに(たしかに):certainly (たしか+に=making it an Adverb)

*失敗(しっぱい):failure -> 失敗する: to mess up.

*してない:(していません):When talking, the い of いない or いません is often not emphasized / slurred. Meaning: Not doing something.

*よ:Particle emphasizing the sentence’s meaning (?)

*ね:Particle implying that the colleague will agree with his statement.

WHOLE SENTENCE:

① “(He) only (did) skin incisions for thirty years.”

② “(He’s) certainly not messing up (doing that).”

I am not sure about the second sentence so please help me. :slight_smile:
Thanks to @Myria for the correction!

Hello @postliminal, thank you for participating, keep it up! I’ll update the first message.

Quite the contrary of counter-productive in my humble opinion. In community exercises, people are reticent to participate if there’s only a few people participating, kind of like an empty dance floor. Once a certain threshold has been reached however, the psychological barrier wanes and people start participating.

It’s a great opportunity for less experienced members to ask you questions as to how you came to your conclusions. I know I will.

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Almost! But it’s kinda the other way around.
“But he is a person who hasn’t made a surgical mistake in 30 years”
I think the problem is that you put 手術 together with 30 years rather than with miss.

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Sure! if I see a lapse in participation, I’ll try to fill in.

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ahhh nice okay, now I get the context! :slight_smile:
Thanks a lot!

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Probably to resolve the confusion: it says 失してない
失敗(しっぱい) meaning failure, mistake

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I’m sometimes completly lost noticing which reply is to which frame of the manga…

So it would be nice if whoever is mantaining the first message of thread updates with links to posts of claimed/done messages.

(Or I can do (I need it not to be lost anyway), but then it won’t be at the top; not on old threads anyways)

Index:

@YanagiPablo: Sorry, I’m not going to do that though. I update the first thread when I can but I’m not going to link each reply to each post considering I’m already hosting the activity daily for the last month and a half. When you’re hosting you can do that :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

Unless you mean what’s taken and available? In that case it’s been there from the beginning:
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If you want to do it though, you can put the formatted messages with the code tags and I can then just copy/paste them in the first message.

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That’d be good idea actually considering this is meant to be a community exercise, you could be in charge of that.

I Claim F

F Part 1: 結局 教授けっきょく きょうじゅであるって ことと……
F Part 2: 名医めい いであるか どうかは無関係むかんけい ってことだな……

First, ROFLOL @ Étienne’s use of the “Details” collapsing triangle feature. YOU get it…you see why I’m in love with that board feature. Wow!! BWA haha!

F Analysis

Part 1
  • 結局 (kekkyoku けっきょく) “In the end”. I am used to seeing 結 in marriage (結婚kekkon).局(kyoku) alone apparently also means “station” “bureau” “department” and “lady in waiting”(!).
  • 教授(mei i)である “being a professor”; I’m guessing that the で is marking “professor” for the ある. I don’t really understand why the phrase is constructed this way!! YanagiPablo, I totally understand what you said about this kanji in H…I saw the characters, I knew that I should know them, but then had to look it up again!!
  • って事とI split this off the verb ある, because it seems more like the user of ってas accentuating a phrase thing (事) said before by (by who the speaker is talking to). Is this final とthe conjunction “and”? Hmmm. Not sure. Actually, I feel more like it’s a QUOTE と, as in, “You said about the professor…” Nb: pointed out below by Naphthalene that it’s one of those quote-type "Aと言う事"⇒ “the thing that is A” どうもありがとうNaphthalene!
Part2
  • 名医であるか "(he) is a famous doctor
    どうかは along the lines of “what if” “whether it is so”
  • 無関係 (mukankei) Adj. irrelevant, unrelated.
    って事だな that thing which was said (whether he is a famous doctor) is this -な Adj., Irrelevant.

F Interpretation
Part 1: In the end, as to what you said about the professor,…
Part 2: it doesn’t matter whether or not he is a famous doctor…

Who am I kidding, I need my practice. I’ll claim G.

The “pre-formated” tag doesn’t handle multi-line blocks however…

Maybe you can just put a link to the index ?

This one:

[Index](/t/x/43330/21)

note the shortcut: /t (as in “Topic”, /x (x replaces the thread title) / then topic number / post number within the topic)

And I’ll claim H

Transcription:

患者のために病院の中を走り回り…

腕を磨き続けた人は 教授になれない…

(走 and 磨 I knew the meaning, but didn’t remember the reading of the verbs, so had to search; 教授 I supposed it was professor, but wasn’t sure (and didn’t remember the reading either). All other I could type directly, that feels good)

Regarding what’s what, maybe people could put the targeted letter at the beginning of their message like:

H

You understood xyz wrong.

That would allow people to know what us bring talked about instead of having me needing to constantly edit the first message.

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Vocabulary:
(only new)

  • 走り回る (はしりまわる) : to run around
  • 腕 (うで) : 1. arm, 2. (fig.) skills
  • 磨く (みがく) : to polish
  • 続ける (つづける) : to continue (transitive)
  • 教授 【キョウ・ジュ】: professor
  • なれない : なる (to become) in potential and negative.

Interpretation:

患者のために病院の中を走り回り…
=> “runing around inside the hospital for the patients…

note: as a motion verb, 走り回る uses particle を to tag the medium/path along which the motion is done)

腕を磨き続けた人は 教授になれない…
=> “people that continue polishing their skills… won’t be able to become professors…

(to fully understand the sentence, it has to be put in context with what Dekune-kun said just before (frame “G”))

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である

Just think of it as one unit “である” and not as で+ある (even if historically/etymologically that is what it is).

It is the formal version of what is more commonly said as です/だ. Do you remember how the negative form is で(は)ありません/で(は)ない ?

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