10 Minute Biographies Chapter Nine: Sesshū Tōyō Start Date: 27th February (JST) Previous Chapter: Chapter 8 Next Chapter: Chapter 10 Home Thread: Link [IMG_0939] Schedule We are reading at the pace of one page per day. If a sentence crosses two pages it is read as part of the first page. ▶ …

[image] 2000kanji: 上ります [image] Micki: I love that Japanese uses a specific verb for going to the capital! According to jisho, it’s not necessarily for ‘going to the capital’. It’s just going/sailing up a river. I took the ‘capital’ from 都の北京. BTW: In France you say ‘monter à Paris’ (…

Yes, I didn’t mean to imply that’s the only meaning of 上る. But I was commenting on that third definition in Jisho. And I think in English you can probably do the same thing - to say “ascend to the capital” meaning “go to the capital”. [Screen Shot 2021-03-07 at 16.45.02]

[image] 2000kanji: わが国にも I think the も could do with a bit more emphasis: “Even in our country…” What do you think?

[image] NicoleIsEnough: What do you think? Yes, you are right.

▶ p. 134 It would be great if someone could grammatically decompose the sentence about painting as a Japanese!

[image] 2000kanji: It would be great if someone could grammatically decompose the sentence about painting as a Japanese! I’d be really curious about that too. I’m trying to do my own breakdown of that particular sentence and I’m not sure that it’s helped much. I remember in a past book club …

[image] 2000kanji: 日本人の私でなければ描けない、日本人が心から良いと思う水墨画を描かなければ。 OK, I’ll give it a try :slight_smile: 日本人の私 - I, being Japanese, でなければ - negative ば form of です、i.e. “if not me” 描けない - cannot draw 日本人が - this is the noun that gets qualified by all above it, i.e. “Japanese who cannot draw like me” …

[image] NicoleIsEnough: “Japanese who cannot draw like me” Nice try, thanks. But I have a little doubt concerning the “Japanese who cannot draw like me”, especially because of the comma between 描けない and 日本人.

I can see that the comma is quite irritating, but I’ve often encountered it as a means to group all the stuff that qualifies what comes after the comma :woman_shrugging: So I no longer see the comma as a device to separate stuff but rather as a device to connect stuff. Also, to give you another ar…

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