💀 骨ドラゴンのマナ娘 / The Skull Dragon's Precious Daughter - BBC Book Club - Home Thread

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An abandoned girl finds her way to a dragon’s lair, and becomes raised as his daughter. Later, the girl finds she has magical aptitude and finds her way back to human civilization, under the watchful gaze of her bone dragon guardian.

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Where to purchase

Physical: Amazon JP | CD Japan

Digital: Bookwalker | Kindle

Schedule

Week Chapters Start Date Page #s Total Pages Pages with Text
Week 1 1p1 Jan 17 3 - 20 18 13
Week 2 1p2 Jan 24 21 - 36 16 16
Week 3 2p1 Jan 31 39 - 52 13 12
Week 4 2p2 Feb 7 53 - 70 18 16
Week 5 3p1 Feb 14 71 - 82 11 11
Week 6 3p2 Feb 21 83 - 100 18 18
Week 7 4 Feb 28 101 - 130 29 27
Week 8 5 Mar 7 131 - 161 30 25
Week 9 6 Mar 14 162 - 200 38 31

Vocabulary

Discussion Guidelines

Spoiler Courtesy

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  1. Any potential spoiler for the current week’s reading need only be covered by a spoiler tag. Predictions and conjecture made by somebody who has not read ahead still falls into this category.
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Proper Nouns

Pending

Page Numbers

The only page numbers to appear in this book are in the table of contents on page 1. If you’re reading on bookwalker, the page numbers are offset by 2 (i.e. page 5 on bookwalker is page 3 in reality) due to including the cover pages in bookwalker’s count. Each weekly thread will include the final panel for help in finding the stopping point.

Membership

Will you be reading with us?
  • Yes
  • Yes, but I might start late
  • Maybe
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Reserved post if needed

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So the chapter page numbers are:

Chapter Start Page End Page
1 3 38
2 39 70
3 71 100
4 101 130
5 131 161
6 162 200

I think chapter 1 is the hardest chapter, since the main character is a very small child in it and speaks in entirely kana for chapter 1. She grows out of it by chapter 2 however.

So I’m going to offer three schedules to vote on:

Fast Schedule

Week Chapters Start Date Page #s Total Pages Pages with Text
1 1p1 Jan 17 3 - 20 18 13
2 1p2 Jan 24 21 - 36 16 16
3 2 Jan 31 39 - 70 31 28
4 3 Feb 7 71 - 100 29 29
5 4 Feb 14 101 - 130 29 27
6 5 Feb 21 131 - 161 30 25
7 6 Feb 28 162 - 200 38 31

Medium Schedule

Week Chapters Start Date Page #s Total Pages Pages with Text
1 1p1 Jan 17 3 - 20 18 13
2 1p2 Jan 24 21 - 36 16 16
3 2p1 Jan 31 39 - 52 13 12
4 2p2 Feb 7 53 - 70 18 16
5 3p1 Feb 14 71 - 82 11 11
6 3p2 Feb 21 83 - 100 18 18
7 4 Feb 28 101 - 130 29 27
8 5 Mar 7 131 - 161 30 25
9 6 Mar 14 162 - 200 38 31

Slow Schedule

Week Chapters Start Date Page #s Total Pages Pages with Text
1 1p1 Jan 17 3 - 20 18 13
2 1p2 Jan 24 21 - 36 16 16
3 2p1 Jan 31 37 - 52 13 12
4 2p2 Feb 7 53 - 70 18 16
5 3p1 Feb 14 71 - 82 11 11
6 3p2 Feb 21 83 - 100 18 18
7 4p1 Feb 28 101 - 115 14 13
8 4p2 Mar 7 116 - 130 15 14
9 5p1 Mar 14 131 - 146 15 14
10 5p2 Mar 21 147 - 161 15 11
11 6p1 Mar 28 162 - 180 19 15
12 6p2 Apr 4 181 - 200 20 16
  • Fast (7 weeks)
  • Medium (9 weeks)
  • Slow (12 weeks)
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I tried to make the breaks line up to sensible points in the story, except for chapter 5 where there’s no clean break.

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Also known as Reverse Yotsuba Syndrome

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The cover was so adorable that I accidentally binged the whole volume in 1 sitting, but I’ll try to also check in for weekly discussion when the club officially starts.

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I’ll be joining this one :slight_smile: It looks soo cute and seems to have decent art :slight_smile: It sits right at the level, where it’s a bit harder to read, but still managable (thanks furigana!).

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Looks like a win for the medium schedule in the schedule poll so that’s what we’ll go with

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I haven’t joined a book club in a long time, but I think I’ll go for this one. The manga looks cute and I wanted to join a book club for my bingo this year. :3

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So, Natively is currently giving this a level 25, suggesting it’s on the harder side for what we typically read in beginner book club. Looks like we might be a mix of more experienced and less experienced readers.

I wonder if a vocab sheet would be helpful for the bookclub? It says TBD in the OP.

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A vocab list is available on Manga Kotoba: 骨ドラゴンのマナ娘 1巻 | Manga Kotoba

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Interesting, not seen Manga Kotoba used to support a bookclub before. That’s certainly very convenient, a lot of the work has been done already.

It didn’t look very easy to use to read along on my phone screen, but looking at it on a tablet or computer screen it’s a lot easier. Will be interesting to see how people get on with it. The words are grouped by page, but not ordered by the order they appear on the page.

I’m presuming there is no way for us to correct misparsings or add missing words? 棄てる and 呼ぶ are missing on the first page of the chapter for example.

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Probably a question for @ChristopherFritz who develops the site

Weird, I could’ve sworn when I looked like a week ago it was sitting at level 22.

It was 26 when I nominated it, looking back on the nomination post.

I’ve read the first week’s pages and seemed very accessible as a beginner book club pick from that snapshot.

I’m on the “pro Google Sheets” side, and I can create one if you’d like, @araigoshi, after I do my normal book club posting Friday afternoon (my time).

I think Micki hits on the reasons:

I would love to update the interface to be much better on a smartphone, but UI has always been my weakest point as a software developer. And since I barely do anything on a smartphone (outside of Takoboto and Pokémon GO, and previously iKnow, then Anki), I don’t have a good grasp of what makes for a good smartphone UI.

This is the biggest weakness of generating vocabulary lists via OCR. The software has no idea what order the dialogue occurs on the page.

I have done auto-generated vocabulary sheets in the past based on OCR, but that process includes a manual step where I go through every page of the manga and use my mouse/keyboard to capture the proper order of dialogue.

Not at this time. I’d love to add something like that if I thought it’d be used enough to justify working it into the UI somehow. But I’d probably have to limit it to logged-in users.

Google Sheets advantages:

  • Anyone can add/fix entries (even if they are not logged into a Google account)
  • If a word has multiple meanings, someone can put just the one meaning (translation) relevant to the dialogue
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Here’s an empty Google Sheets ready to go if you want to add it to the book club posts, @araigoshi, for anyone who wants to fill out words as they go.

For anyone who hasn’t participated in populating a vocabulary sheet before, the main advantage for you personally is that it increases your engagement with the words.

If you’re given the meaning of a word instantly, it’s easy to forget it instantly. If you’re looking up the meaning, then typing out the word and the meaning, you’re increasing your interaction with it, giving yourself a better chance of recalling it later.

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I’m hoping to join, but likely a week or so late. Going to try and purchase at a nearby Kinokuniya next weekend.

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Thanks for making that! I’ve filled in vocab for week one so that should be helpful to people starting out, and then hopefully others can contribute going forward if we want to carry on using it.

I found several words that I’ve added to my SRS in the last few months cropping up so it was nice to recognise them. I also found a couple of phrases that have a specific definition that I’d glossed over on my first read, including the lovely 何の気無しに (unintentionally).

屑籠 (wastebasket) comes up several times in week one as the name of the forest, although sometimes with gikun - so this might be something to look out for. (Gikun are furigana that don’t give the reading of the kanji, but instead show a different word. This is a technique in written language for given extra depth to a word, but can be confusing for Japanese learners).

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Thank you so much for filling in week one. I use Anki for vocab and the google sheet will make it easy to create a deck.

I just finished reading Yotsuba& 1-3, and this manga looks to be a bit more difficult, so I am excited to get started.

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