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Prologue, Part 2: 母の指笛、霧の民アーリョ

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Start Date: February 1st
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Somehow a harder read than last week. I didn’t stop to check words I didn’t know, since I felt they were understandable from context (e.g., 竃) but still.
Story-wise, it sounds like the end of the beginning.

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Really liking the vibe this story is giving so far! (which is good, because I already bought the 2nd volume since it had that coins up thing on bookwalker)

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I’ve just read thought this part and I liked it…even if I forebode darker times in the story :eyes: I didn’t add many words to kitsun but I checked a good number on the kindle dictionary. How many pages has the book?

Made me laugh the cooking part with the miso seasoning :laughing:they put miso even in a fantasy story

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I didn’t get a couple of things:

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出てこず
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誰から教えられた知恵でもないけれど

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出てこず:
出て is te-form of 出る, こず is 来る + the ず construct (which means “not” or “without”)
Together they make 出てこず = not coming out / without coming out

誰から教えられた知恵でもないけれど = wisdom that wasn’t taught to her by anyone

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Thanks! I don’t quite understand the こ :eyes: how can we get 出てこず from 出る and ず？where does the こ come from? Should I check a particular grammar form?

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Oh, as I said, the 来る + ず results in こず (just like こない but substitute ない with ず), and this attaches to the te-form of 出る. 出て + こず = 出てこず

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Ahhh sorry I’m quite dense sometimes :laughing:
So it comes from 来る？ and becomes 来ず？

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Yep. くる just has weird conjugations.

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I really didn’t remember this one :crazy_face: thanks :blush::nerd_face:

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I’m not sure I’ve ever seen it to be honest. But once @mrahhal mentioned it I remembered that it’s always negative form just with ない replaced with ず.

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Wow, there are so many words I don’t know in the first few pages of the section. I really like the phrase 物心がつく though.

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“Thing-heart is attached”, right?
Personally I try to keep my thing-heart attached as often as possible for health reasons.

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If this is what it’s like to read without a dictionary, I’m glad I use one! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Has anyone ever seen こもる written in kanji? It was written here in kana, so I’m not sure if it’s worth learning the kanji for it.

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I have, yes. I don’t remember from which book, but I’ve added 籠る on Floflo.
I’m going to take an educated guess and say it was from 新世界より

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:joy:

Thanks, I’ll learn it that way then. The meaning from reading should be easy if I can remember to associate it with ひきこもり.

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Wow, such perfect timing.

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Kind of annoying that it’s written as both 籠る and 籠もる since I have to pick one to study.

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籠もる seems to be the most common way. It’s not the first thing my IME suggests, though, but my IME is weird.

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