時をかける少女: Week 6 Discussion (Chapters 8 and 9)


#61

Heh, interesting! I thought it’s maybe better to keep it the same as in the book, because (a) it might be easier to find in the book, and (b) I might misinterpret some kana word and put in the wrong kanji to the confusion of others.

So I think it’s that time again… What do y’all think?

  • Quote the text exactly as it appears in the book
  • Use as many kanji as you like
  • Honestly I don’t care

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#62

I tend to use the kanji only if I’m pretty sure I’m right, to avoid the issue you’re describing. I find it easier to read and look things up with Yomichan once it’s using kanji.


#63

I mean, as long as you don’t write 珈琲 instead of コーヒー and 気の所為 instead of 気のせい it’s fine.


#64

frets to self

Am I being called out? 気の所為、気の所為…


#65

Only if you think you are :wink:


#66

Match the book exactly, including furigana


#67

Vertical writing would be a nice touch too


#68

本  そ
当  れ
に  は
無  あ
理  ま
だ  り
よ  難
      し
      い
      じ
      ゃ
      な
      い
      の


#69

I’m sure that’s how all those novels are written too. They just open Word or something and try to make it look fine. For furigana you just have to reduce the font size :upside_down_face:

Can’t believe you actually did this, it looks surprisingly good :laughing:


#70

When I went to Japan last January, I saw ろうそく instead of 蝋燭 which I had learnt before going… :open_mouth: . What the hell Japan!


#71

Yeah, I feel you, I actually see 蝋燭 a whole lot too (it’s written in kanji almost every time I’ve seen it so far)


#72

Ah, good to know :slight_smile: !


#73

Okay, so I’m still behind but I’m getting there. If anyone has time to answer a few lots of questions, I’d be very grateful but regardless I’m ploughing on with chapter 10 finally! some day I shall come back for you, chapter 7…

All from Tsubasa Bunko ed.


Chapter 8

Pages 48 - 49

和子は、もの見高い人間たちの多いこと、やってくるのが早いことにあきれてしまった。

What does もの見高い人 mean - people coming to gawk?

Page 49

家から出てきた浅倉五郎が、目ざとく和子を見つけて。。。

Apparently 目ざとい is ‘sharp-sighted’ or ‘easily-awakened’. Is that just a slightly awkward translation for this context, basically referring to the fact that Kazuko is (was) apparently up bright and ready to go, as it were (in contrast to the late Gorou)?

Page 53

。。。朝の光がへやにみちていた。みち what now? Is this from みちる and means the room was full of morning light? Was being filled? (shouldn’t it conjugate like みちって?!)


Chapter 9

Page 55

浅倉さんはよく遅刻するから、あなたまで遅刻しないようにね!

Mariko says this to Kazuko before heading off. I assume she’s saying something like “don’t you be late too!”, but what role is the まで playing here? Don’t [wait] till the point that you are late? It seems like a weird word order for that.

Page 58

ショーウインドーのガラスがするどい音をたててくだけ、あたりに飛び散った。

I think I’m just confused by that middle bit - するどい音をたててくだけ - what is happening, and what is it happening to?!

。。。足をけがしたらしい中年の人が。。。 What does けがす mean in this context?


#74

No, I think he’s sharp-sighted because he caught eye of Kazuko right away.

みちる is ichidan, so it’s みちて. Without rereading the whole section, that meaning seems reasonable.


#75

物見高い is in itself a word used to describe curious people, or something like that. So it means “curious onlookers”.

Gorou was the one who was sharp-sighted. 目ざとい changes to an adverb (目ざとく) to describe that Gorou found Kazuko with his sharp eyes.

Yeah, I don’t think it could be anything other than 満ちる. It’s actually an ichidan verb, so it’s conjugated correctly :slightly_smiling_face:

まで is the “too” in your translation. It’s maybe a bit of a stretch, but that’s the best way I can say it.

するどい音: sharp noise
(するどい音)をたててくだけ: を立てて砕け: break while making a sharp noise

It’s 怪我した, actually :slightly_smiling_face:


#76

I think you have the meaning right. In cases like this, まで is just a different version of “until”, meaning “even” or “to the extent”. Like “don’t even you be late!”

But I agree, “too” or “also” is sometimes the most natural way to put it in English.


音をたてる = to make a sound

https://jisho.org/word/音を立てる


#77

:exploding_head: I totally thought that was applying to Kazuko. D’oh.

I cry.

My jisho-fu needs some serious work. I could swear I tried the all-kana version of ものみだかい…

:face_with_raised_eyebrow: okay, I’ll just squint at the page and accept that :grin:

Aah, that way of looking at it helps me.

Oooh - I was pretty sure するどい音 was a sharp noise, but I got totally confused by what those verbs were (didn’t actually realise it was two) and then started wondering if actually something was happening to the sound… :joy: Some poor deduction skills from me there.

Thank you so much both.


#78

Apparently I burned that kanji and 砕く on WK… time to resurrect them!


#79

Kana is hard, I know


#80

Well yes, but I didn’t even remember it with the kanji :laughing: