何回 and 何度 and some more words


#1

Hello,

I have a question.
WK learn you(me 2 at the moment) words for "how many times?"
nankai and nando, later at level 58 nanben and level 31 nanben are added. (Sorry I don’t have kana/kanji IME)
All these words seem similar to me and they have the same meaning.
Is there somehow a difference in use or politeness?

Thanks!
:slight_smile:


#2

I’ve been wondering about the difference between these as well.
Some other pairs are 今度, 今回 and 毎度, 毎回.


#3

The only thing I can say for sure is that 今度 it’s often used to mean “next time” instead of “this time”, as in. “今度うちに遊びに来てください”. “Please drop by next time”.


#4

These pairs are interesting. For counting the number of times something happens, then either 何回 or 何度 can be used which is why they seem so very similar.

1回しました / 1度しました = Did once
何度もしました / 何回もしました = Did many times

But they each have their special usages

3回を回転した = Rotated three times
温度が10度下がった = Temperature fell by 10 degrees

Looking at those two sentences, it seems obvious that 回 or 度 would be the right one to use as a counter, because it matches the kanji used in the verb! But this is why if you’re speaking about number of rotations then it’s 何回 or degrees of temperature then 何度


#5

Yes, and with a convenient air of non-specificity.

Want to never actually do something with someone but sound like you do? Use 今度!


#6

My understanding is that they are largely interchangeable when referring to “times,” excluding the this time vs. next time exception already noted.

Other random uses:

  • 何度も何度も is a saying, but not 何回も何回も
  • Restaurant employees/owners will often say 毎度ありがとうございます but never 毎回
  • I’ve heard 何度も used as “many times” more than 何回も though both are possible (何度も definitely rolls off the tongue faster though)

#7

I have heard 何回も何回も though it certain isn’t as common (~5m results on google vs ~25m).

When watching videos on Youtube I often see 最終回 for the last time. At the beginning of the video, the creator often says 今回は~をやっていきたいと思います (game playthroughs). This illustrates that usage of 回 is better for structured repeated occurences.

  • Typically 度 is not used for counting times beyond 1度, 2度, and sometimes 3度 or more for special phrases.
  • ~度目 is used more than ~回目. Counting times with bigger numbers (50th time for example) especially use ~度目 more than ~回目.
  • 前回 does not have a 度 equivalent.
  • 第~回 is used but 第~度 isn’t.
  • When doing arithmetic with the number of times to produce a decimal, only 回 is used (like 7.4回).
  • When counting occurences in a period of time 回 is used unless the time period is really short.
  • Since 回 refers to structured repetition, 度 is used more with unpredictable numbers
  • 毎回 and 毎度 are both used