Windgreen's Winding Road to WaniKani Level 60 (Over 6 Years!) & Whimsical Wisdom for Japanese (and Beyond!) šŸƒ 怰 šŸ›¤ :crabigator: :durtle_noice: 😌 šŸ‡ÆšŸ‡µ

I don’t have cake (yet), but I did bake blondies and brownies! :face_savoring_food:

In addition to celebrating reaching WaniKani level 60, this post has two main purposes: telling an overview of my Japanese learning journey, and sharing some lessons I’ve been learning along the way. :durtle_noice: You’re invited to sit down, relax, listen to some chill music :wind_chime:, and enjoy a cozy beverage (mine’s hot chocolate :chocolate_bar: :face_savoring_food:) while reading. :relieved_face: :hot_beverage:

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Windgreen’s Winding Road to WaniKani Level 60 (Over 6 Years!) :leaves: :wavy_dash: :railway_track: :crabigator:

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Hi, there! :durtle_hello: I’m Windgreen :leaf_fluttering_in_wind:: nature admirer, stationery enthusiast, dessert lover. :durtle_noice:

Studying Japanese has been one of my side quests: not the main quest in my life, but something I enjoy doing in my spare time for curiosity, fun, and growth. :durtle_megane:

Looking Back: A Long and Winding Road Indeed! :sweat_smile:

There were many ups and downs :roller_coaster:; lots of starting, stopping, and restarting. :repeat_button: To some extent, that’s a natural part of the process.

And yet, a whole lot of those downs were due not so much to outside factors but to my own struggles with self-doubt, indecision and procrastination. :sleepy_face:

Looking Around: Guides, Companions, Supporters Along the Way :handshake:

Walking this road often feels lonely, and sometimes we’re indeed alone. But looking carefully we can see the signs showing that this road has been walked by other people, and we can help each other out. :durtle_hello:

I’m grateful for all the people who have helped along the way:

  • Friends, for sharing weirdness and offering encouragement :high_touch:
  • Family, for accepting said weirdness, even if not always understanding it :sweat_smile:
  • Husband, for being compatibly weird :durtle_love: and fiercely supportive :face_holding_back_tears:
  • Teachers, for sharing knowledge and weirdness wisdom :durtle_megane:
  • Tech-savvy people, for making weird useful sites and apps and user scripts :nerd_face:
  • Wanikani/Tofugu team, for creating wonderfully weird resources for Japanese learners :crabigator:
  • Wanikani Community, for embracing weirdness and being so welcoming and interesting (with many guides, challenges, tips, book clubs, study logs, appreciation threads, and POLL threads)! :durtle_noice: The gentle encouragement from this community helped me come out of my shell and transform from a shy lurker :caught_durtling: to an occasional poster :durtle_hello:, a Noice Durtle :durtle_noice:, a study logger :durtle_megane:, even a POLLmaster :high_touch:, and now a level 60 poster :crabigator:! :green_heart:

Looking Ahead: The Road Goes On! :railway_track:

This is certainly not the end of the journey! In fact, there’s a lot of things to do! :sweat_smile:

  • WaniKani :crabigator:: Finish the remaining lessons. Continue doing reviews for a little longer, but not to the point of burning all items.
  • Shift focus and balance skills :balance_scale:: Increase study time focused on grammar :nerd_face:, listening :headphone:, speaking :speaking_head:, and reading :books:!
  • JLPT N2 :page_facing_up:: Recently I took a practice test and scored enough to pass each section but not enough in total to pass. I plan to keep studying, retake a practice test, and perhaps take the actual JLPT N2 in July next year.
  • Japan trip :map_of_japan:: If all goes well, my husband and I will finally travel to Japan in December next year! :crossed_fingers:t2: :star_struck: Time to binge read the Japan Travel section of the forum and start travel planning!

Windgreen’s Whimsical Wisdom for Japanese (and Beyond!) :leaves: :durtle_noice: :relieved_face: :jp:

(Yep, I like playing around with words and making up goofy titles! :upside_down_face: :winking_face_with_tongue: :caught_durtling:)

Here are some of the lessons I’ve been learning along the way. Some refer to specific resources or techniques, but the majority refer to abstract concepts that can help shift our perspective. :thinking: Many are things only briefly mentioned here but already explored by others. :books: Most are ridiculously simple, sometimes surprisingly elegant, yet often annoyingly hard to implement. :sweat_smile: Still, I believe these lessons are worth sharing, because they can make the learning journey much smoother: more sustainable, effective and enjoyable. :relieved_face:

Traveler: You, the Language Learner :backpack: :person_walking:

Who are you? What’s your age, life stage and occupation? :child:t2: :person:t2: :older_person:t2: Are you a caregiver? Do you have a physical or mental illness that impacts your daily life? What are your responsibilities / commitments? :spiral_calendar: Are you more outgoing :high_touch: or more reserved :caught_durtling:?

What are you learning Japanese for: work, study, travel, daily life in Japan, relationships, enjoying Japanese media, challenging your brain, having fun? :page_facing_up: :map_of_japan: :people_hugging: :books: :nerd_face:

What is your native language, and how different is it from Japanese? Do you have previous experiences learning another language? Do you have a background in language learning or education or other related areas? :teacher:t2:

These and other factors can affect your attitude, the time and energy you have available, and the tools and techniques that will suit you best given your circumstances.

When weighing language learning advice, I like a two-step approach:

  1. How well does this advice stand on its own (what is the evidence behind it)? :thinking:
  2. How well does this advice fit into my current life circumstances? :puzzle_piece:

Then I can decide what to do with that advice: to set it aside (at least for the moment; perhaps it might become useful under different circumstances), to implement it ā€œas isā€, or to implement it with adjustments.

Travel Guide: An Overview of the Language Learning Journey :globe_showing_asia_australia:

:telescope: Zoom out, big picture!

I see these not as instruction manuals that must be followed precisely, but as general guides that offer a comprehensive, long-term view of the Japanese learning journey.

Roadmap: Study Materials :world_map:

:microscope: Zoom in, details!

Researching resources: understand the basic principles + test enough to get the hang of things.

  • WaniKani is a tool for learning a selection of kanji and related vocabulary through mnemonics and spaced repetition. If you think that WaniKani teaches the entirety of Japanese, or if you have no idea of what mnemonics and spaced repetition are, that means you haven’t done enough research. Time to sit down and do some homework!
  • If you’re reading the WaniKani forums and other resources for months on end while learning zero Japanese, that means you’re doing too much research. Time to go outside, touch some grass, then come back and actually start learning something!

Bon Voyage!: Attitude :durtle_noice:

An otherwise lovely trip (beautiful scenery, delicious food, interesting activities, welcoming locals) can still be soured by a traveler’s bad attitude. :unamused_face: Similarly, excellent materials, teachers and study techniques might still not be enough, if the language learner does not cultivate an attitude that encourages growth and learning. :seedling: :deciduous_tree:

Perfectionism :100:

Perfectionism, much like the One Ring, tempts us with promises of power, but is ultimately deceiving and destructive. ā€œCast it into the fire!ā€

A nice antidote to perfectionism is the 70% rule (I like dialing it down to 60% or 40%)!

When I restarted my Japanese learning journey, I used to study grammar in a specific way: sitting down at my desk, notebook and pen in hand, watching videos on my laptop, and taking proper notes. That’s a perfectly reasonable way to study, right? Well, that meant I only studied grammar a handful of times. :melting_face:

Then I switched to listening to grammar videos on my phone while doing house chores like washing dishes or folding laundry. By now I’ve studied a handful of grammar playlists, each with more than 50 videos. This is certainly not a perfect study technique, but it helps me study grammar frequently, so that’s a win!

Panic, Comfort, and Stretch Zones :hollow_red_circle:

:cross_mark: Panic/overwhelm zone: Unnecessary, leads to desperation.
:white_check_mark: Comfort zone: Necessary for recovery.
:white_check_mark: Stretch/challenge zone: Necessary for growth.

ā€œGet out of your comfort zoneā€ is a common piece of advice that is not incorrect but is incomplete. Pressure to leave the comfort zone can easily lead people to ignore recovery and overcommit to the point of falling into the panic/overwhelm zone, both of which are counterproductive! :woman_facepalming:t2: What we actually need is to alternate between the comfort and stretch/challenge zones.

Self-Pity, Self-Criticism, Self-Compassion :relieved_face:

:cross_mark: Self-pity: Empathetic, but not effective. Defeatist, leads to stagnation.
:cross_mark: Self-criticism: Not empathetic, may or may not be effective. Harsh, might lead to success but at a high cost, or might also lead to stagnation.
:white_check_mark: Self-compassion: Both empathetic and effective. Encouraging, leads to sustainable improvement.

ā€œFeeling compassion for ourselves in no way releases us from responsibility for our actions. Rather, it releases us from the self-hatred that prevents us from responding to our life with clarity and balance.ā€ - Tara Brach

ā€œThe irony doesn’t escape me: I spent years thinking I needed to be harder on myself to get more done. Turns out I had it backwards. When you stop spending all that energy on negative self-talk, you have so much more available for everything else. It’s a strange equation, isn’t it? Less self-loathing = more energy = better results.ā€ - Chris Guillebeau

ā€œIn fact, self-criticism tends to undermine motivation in the long run. When we berate ourselves for mistakes or setbacks, we create fear of failure, sap our confidence, and often give up more quickly. By contrast, self-compassion provides the emotional safety we need to keep trying, even when things don’t go as planned. Most importantly, it allows us to learn and grow from our mistakes rather than getting derailed by shame and anxiety.
Think about it: what type of coach is going to be most effective at motivating their athletes to achieve their best? A cruel coach that belittles and humiliates their players, or an encouraging coach that gives supportive, targeted feedback on how to improve?ā€ - Kristin Neff

ā€œResearch shows that self-compassionate people have high personal standards; they just don’t beat themselves up when they fail (Neff, 2003b). This means they are less afraid of failure (Neff, Hseih, & Dejitthirat, 2007) and are more likely to try again and to persist in their efforts after failing (Breines & Chen, 2012).ā€ - Center for Mindful Self-Compassion

Balance :balance_scale:

ā€œAttempting to skimp on vacations, rest and exercise, and time with family and friends, leads to suppression of our natural spirit and motivation, as life begins to look like all spinach and no dessert. To sustain high levels of motivation and to lessen the urge to procrastinate in the face of life’s demands for high level performance, we need guilt-free play to provide us with periods of physical and mental renewal.ā€ - Neil Fiore

ā€œThey [PhD students who struggled to complete their theses] felt that life requires deprivation and sacrifice, work was supposed to be difficult, they had to give up something in order to be good, they believed. […] Many of them were in poor physical shape and their homes were generally a battlezone of papers, books, old coffee containers and dirty laundry.
[…] On the other hand, those who were making good progress […] were dedicated and committed to their leisure time. […] They didn’t see their work as depriving them of anything, quite the opposite: working intensely and playing intensely went hand in hand with their enjoyment of life. They were living now, not waiting to begin living when their work was completed.ā€ - Neil Fiore

:cross_mark: Too little: ā€œLearn Japanese while you sleepā€, ā€œbecome fluent in just one monthā€. :roll_eyes: A recipe for disappointment.
:cross_mark: Too much: Sacrificing sleep for study, multiple-hour study sessions with no breaks, keeping an intensive study routine for weeks / months / years on end with no rest and no countermeasures. :person_facepalming:t2: A recipe for burnout.
:white_check_mark: Balance: Not perfect, not static, but a constant alternation between study, rest, sleep, and other aspects of our lives. A recipe for sustainability.

Journey, Progress :wavy_dash:

Values, Goals, Systems :bullseye:

Often we are pressured to define our goals, or to find our purpose and passion. But these aren’t strictly necessary, particularly at the start. It’s alright to begin with just a hunch, a curiosity, a playful ā€œwhat ifā€. :durtle_noice:

Having said that, understanding these concepts can be helpful.

  • Values: Guiding principles (e.g., vitality, creativity, love of learning). Who - who do you wish to become (e.g., an athlete, an artist, a language learner; these are simple descriptors, not necessarily professional titles)?
  • Goals: Outcomes. What - what do you wish to achieve (e.g., running a marathon, writing a book, passing a language exam)?
  • Systems: Processes/activities. How - how do you act to achieve and become what you wish (e.g., a daily / weekly routine for training, writing and studying)?

For each value, there are many possible goals (e.g., vitality: running a marathon, being able to do x pushups with proper form, improving flexibility, etc.); for each goal, there are many possible systems (e.g., improving flexibility: ballet, yoga, Pilates, etc.). We’re not stuck to a single path, we have possibilities.

For more information on values, see ā€œAcceptance and Commitment Therapyā€; and for more on goals and systems, see James Clear’s book ā€œAtomic Habitsā€. :books: :nerd_face:

ā€œWe place unnecessary stress on ourselves to lose weight or to succeed in business or to write a best-selling novel. Instead, you can keep things simple and reduce stress by focusing on the daily process and sticking to your schedule, rather than worrying about the big, life-changing goals.
When you focus on the practice instead of the performance, you can enjoy the present moment and improve at the same time.ā€ - James Clear

Taking and Celebrating Small Steps :footprints:


Parting Words :durtle_hello:

ā€œIn an ā€˜all-or-nothing’ world, we tend to forget the power of something. The mightiest tree sprouts from a vulnerable seed.ā€ - Ryder Carroll

:seedling: :deciduous_tree:

ā€œThe best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best time is now.ā€ - Popular saying

:leaf_fluttering_in_wind: :green_heart:


  1. Me in Stardew Valley character style. :upside_down_face: ā†©ļøŽ

  2. ć‚ŠćŖ is a Japanese name that matches part of my actual name. :durtle_noice: Just as a fun exercise :nerd_face:, I searched Japanese name dictionary sites to check the many kanji/meaning possibilities, and picked 麗凪. ā†©ļøŽ

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Wow, winding road or not, congrats…

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Congratulations of Level 60!!

This is a hell of a post, very glad I read it. Going to bookmark this so any time I need a little inspiration I can come back to it.

Way to go, super happy that you were able to get to level 60! Makes me feel like I have a chance since we joined WaniKani about the same time haha.

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Big congrats! :crabigator: :partying_face: :sparkles:

:leaf_fluttering_in_wind: :durtle_love:

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Congratulations!!! :partying_face: :crabigator:

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Congratulations !
Also this is a fantastic post, well organized, aesthetic and clear.
A good reread resource for when the road get windy indeed…

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Congratulations! Your hard work paid off and you did it! :durtle_love:

Great list of resources for people to look into and advice to consider.

I do feel personally attacked right now, though!

But seriously, good post and even better looking brownies! You earned them. Be sure to share with the Crabigator :crabigator:

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Congratulations on reaching Level 60! And congratulations on learning how to learn! Looking forward to continuing to walk the Japanese study path with you and smell the flowers along the way

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Congratulations! :tada:

I’m so happy to see that you too managed to conquer this mountain! :mount_fuji:
May there be many more such victories in your future! wricat

Also, I’d like to thank you for being such a meowgnificent purrson! love2
You always have a way of calming things down

I really hope that even now that you’ve finished WaniKani itself, you would stay in our commeownity! love

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Wow, I can’t decide if I’m more impressed by how beautiful and structured your post is, or by your journey! Big big congrats on level 60 and keep on going!! :rocket:

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What a wonderful post!!! Thank you so much for creating something so thoughtful and useful!

Most importantly…CONGRATULATIONS!!!

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Such kind comments! :smiling_face: Thank you, everyone! :durtle_noice:

Absolutely! :clap:

Oh, no! If it’s any consolation, I also felt personally attacked in this post, many, many times! :rofl: :sweat_smile:

:green_heart: :smiling_face:

I’m definitely staying, this commeownity is full of meowgnificent peoPOLL like you! :cat: :durtle_noice:

I can say the same thing about your post and your journey, they’re truly inspirational! :star_struck: :clap:

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What an amazing post - thanks for sharing so much wisdom! I’m sitting in an airport and it definitely prompted some self-reflection. I’m so impressed by your staying power - winding it may have been but what a road to look back on. I love your framing of it as a side quest, and feel very similar. And a trip to Japan on the horizon - exciting!

How are you finding your shift into speaking, grammar and listening? The winding road continues no doubt.

Also very much +1 to this haha. People on this forum astound me sometimes, I don’t know how you do it. Well done :clap:

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Congrats on level 60! So many durtles graduating recently. :face_holding_back_tears:

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Congratulations!!! I have to admit, I immediately saw the Magic Knight Rayearth image and sprinted towards the reply since it’s not often I see someone else who likes the manga :heart_eyes:

I love and appreciate your winding road map with age and milestones. It’s extremely motivating and nice to see how things change. There is also a lot of advice in here that I will definitely be rereading over and over again later. Congratulations and thank you for such an inspiring level 60 post. Good luck on your journey here on out!!

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Congratulations on having made it!

I really appreciated your study log checkboxes you’ve been preparing for yourself every week, as if in anticipation, and even though every checkbox didn’t always get ticked, it still felt like the study was always on your mind C:

I have a feeling that this is my biggest takeaway from WaniKani so far, that’s just something you learn with the system as you go, observing other people, reading other’s posts, we’re all in this together C:

i wonder how much could i integrate something like this into my routine too, this feels like a good shoutout ^^

man, i’m so many years in and i still have a feeling i don’t have a good answer to those ^^
i’m always looking with glassy eyes at those that do however, but the journey is also the goal ^^

:people_hugging: you paved the way for me to hit that road 6 hours later :heart_hands: ^^

So this is the sticker you’ve saved for level 60, huh? They’re out of print right now, I wonder if they’ll ever sell them again. I didn’t end up getting this one in 2020, and I feel like I’m missing out. WHERE ARE MY WANIKANI (vol. 2026) STICKERS???

good job, windgreen, proud of you C:

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Haha, I did that on purpose, you know. :smiley:

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Congrats :tada: :glowing_star: :partying_face: !!!

What an inspiring journey, thanks so much for taking the time to share your thoughts and go in depth with the quotes and specifics. Especially that mindset section, you’ve really created a unique guide here :star_struck:

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Thank you so much, everyone! :high_touch:

Oh, there’s a long way to go! My skills are very unbalanced, much like this:

:rofl: :sweat_smile:

Now, in general, input skills (reading, listening) tend to be better than output skills (writing, speaking).

For input, adding grammar and listening has been alright, especially since I started combining listening to videos or podcasts with doing house chores.

Output simply wasn’t on the radar for most of my time studying Japanese, it was only this year that I changed that! Considering my shyness and tendency to overwhelm even when speaking with people I know well and in my own language :see_no_evil_monkey: :speak_no_evil_monkey:, I’m taking tiny baby steps towards speaking in Japanese. :sweat_smile: I started with simple ā€œlisten and repeat out loudā€ exercises in Speechling. Soon I’m planning to add some writing exercises, where there’s the challenge of needing to structure my ideas in Japanese, but on my own and with no time pressure. Next year I might finally try some conversation lessons!

Yay, another Magic Knight Rayearth fan! :high_touch: You might want to take a look at the picture in the first post of my study log, that character was the basis for my username and some of my old profile pictures here in the forum. :grin:

Did you watch the anime as well as reading the manga? A long time ago I read the manga, in my language, but never watched the anime. In the future I’d like to try rereading the manga, now in Japanese, and finally watching the anime, also in Japanese!

We need MORE STICKERS to appease all the Sticker Durtles out there! :durtle:

Some digital artwork that we could save and use would also be cool! :durtle_noice:

That was a much appreciated gentle nudge in the right direction! :smiling_face: :green_heart:

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CONGRATULATIONS, WINDGREEN!!!

I feel like I should know you better by now… since we have taken similar nice durtling time of Japanese study
…although for you it was a ā€œside questā€, and for me it was my ā€œmain questā€ lol

I’m giving you a Stardew Valley cake, because I’m going through a phase right now… And your name Wind-Green and beautiful garden pictures make me think it’s appropriate

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