It is a different level if you just repeat one. Like a brain wash. I know it’s boring and kind of contra intuitive but if I can give an advice on studying languages after testing everything possible for a human it is this.
Honestly i am tempted to advice watching godzilla 2015
The audio guide is written by a famous writer and it is very rich in expressions.
I mean, I agree. I came to the same conclusion. It’s just tedious to rewatch stuff. Effective, but tedious. That’s what lead to trying alternating episodes, so at least I’m getting new information/new entertainment.
That being said, I’m currently watching Komi Can’t Communicate. I watch it with JP subs, and then I rewatch the episode with English subs. I don’t mind repeating episodes because honestly Komi is great. I haven’t loved a character as much as I love Komi in a long time.
Wait, they made anime version? I’m seriously out of the loop - I was aware only of manga.
(Ashamed to admit, but I bought the first volume something like three years ago, and it’s still sitting on a shelf and waiting… )
Definitely have to check it out.
How could a person be C2 with a 5100 word vocabulary at all lol? That really is some shady scoring. I would hope someone with a C2 would have well over double that amount. Triple, really.
That first paragraph is almost exactly that my colleagues have said was their takeaway from their neuroscience/metacognition research! That’s what I meant to say earlier: we kind of have to make things more difficult for our brains if we want gains, because our brains will look for the quickest path even involuntarily.
I’m in the same boat as you insofar as I first started learning in the 90s. It gives me a profound gratitude for Jisho and WaniKani and Bunpro and OJAD today, though! But I really regret that I didn’t do immersion practice or study outside my school materials more back then. But as you remember, it was next to impossible to figure out how to study Japanese “right” in those days!
I’ve been thinking lately about the best thing to watch to achieve this effect. I’m trying to think of a movie or anime episode that I love enough to watch it 50 times and I can’t imagine loving anything that much. This is also why I don’t have any tattoos!
I do the same: first time with Japanese subs (or no subs if I feel like I need listening practice) and the second time with English subs. I know I’m not learning much (if anything) on the English run-through, but it prepares me for the next episode, and it gives me closure!
I got B2, which I think is actually where I am, but I’m similarly skeptical. Both because I marked a lot of words correct because I could guess them from the kanji and because it seems like this thing depends heavily on what kind of materials the student happens to have been practicing from. Plus this quiz is extremely susceptible to self-report bias.
That’s what I tried when Dogen recommended that method to get used to hearing pitch accent.
It doesn’t work! I was wrecking my brain to find the BEST movie, but that’s like trying to fall in love intentionally or inventing something great.
Just take anything that comes across your way by chance, you don’t need to love it, anything Japanese does the trick! If it is a bit silly it works better.
Of course you will memorize all the words phrases and accents forever so it might be good to take something with a bit of variety of narration and spoken languages and not too exaggerated voices. Not like Mickey mouse for example.
Yes, as long as you don’t mind reading/watching/saying it, that’s enough. Finding something you love is a rare thing that you should enjoy when it happens, but don’t expect it from everything you do. That’s also just life advice xD
Ive had a different experience with this. If I watch something where I dont know a lot of words I get exhausted and little benefit. But, if I have studied the word, it hits that lightbulb moment.
On the other hand if Ive heard a word used enough to recognize its existence (but not meaning) and then it joins my study pile it`s much easier.
For both orders at some point (for me) there needs to be word lookup and review.
Did you ever get to the point that you could hear it?
I had a post from 3 months ago where I posted that I had finally gained that ability, and oddly enough I did it on accident.
I should add to this that I can’t clearly hear pitch all of the time. I can hear it most of the time, but it seems to require a bit of attentive effort.
When I was just beginning to study Japanese in college I had a professor tell me that in general the language is grammatically flexible, that it won’t matter if I switch around a subject and an object now and again because it will still be viable. While the sentence may be understandable to a certain extent, it’s certainly not grammatically correct and my comprehension and grades reflected that.
I really wish I had realized early on that I needed to put as much emphasis on correct grammatical structure as I was on my kanji spellings etc. Anyone else?
Also who made up the lie that Japanese doesn’t have tonals? I’m coming for you lol
More specific to my context, but using the JLPT to grade yourself by doing every level.
I am Not going to pay 5 separate plane flights, hotel fees and test fees god bless. At most I’m doing one after I finish my class (will try either N4 or N3), and then either try out N2 and N1 or jump straight into N1
I got stuck in that game because it was easy for me to get to a test site. I have only passed once (N3) out of the 5 times I have taken it. I took the N2 twice and just felt like I had learned N2 materials for a year, but I wasn’t using my japanese in a way that would solidify that knowledge. Now I am reading books (finally) and am much more confident but I won’t be getting back in the JLPT game until I feel like I don’t need to study for it. Maybe I’ll pick up a grammar book or something here and there, but I am not taking the test to “check my level” again.
I’m one of his patrons and I always forget to rewatch that video. Were you active listening on each repetition? I could see myself putting the same thing on repeatedly as passive listening practice, but my day job is about to ramp up and I’m trying to think about how I’m going to juggle that time!
I was confused about this a while ago, so I looked it up a bit. (This is purely based of google, so take it with a grain of salt)
From how I understood it, it’s simply a thing of definitions. A language is called tonal when it has multiple high/low pitch variations (like Mandarin) and it’s called a pitch-accent language when it only distinguishes between high and low. (Like Japanese)
So saying it isn’t a tonal language is correct, just a little confusing.