Week 7: 佐賀のがばいばあちゃん 👵🏼

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Week 7

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Start Date: May 14th
Previous Part: Week 6

Reading:

Week Start Date Chapter Page Count
Week 7 May 14th Chapter 10, 11 21.5

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I read chapter 10 a little ahead of time. I’m starting to form a general opinion of the book.

My opinion with plot points blurred!

I’m starting to wonder what we are working towards in the book. Usually stories have a character arc, right? But we know, because the author has told us already from the very beginning, how this whole experience has changed him later in life.

Sooo… without some kind of unresolved issue the book (which is still pleasant and lightly entertaining by the way) is losing tension for me.

The only question we are left with is will he be properly reunited with his Mom again? And if so, what will come of our がばいばあちゃん?

There’s still time for some drama to pop up. Maybe I’ll eat these words in just a while?

Now that we’re a little over halfway, I wonder what do you guys think?

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Oh, fun question. I haven’t read this week’s stuff yet, though.

Guess I'll collapse it too

I totally get what you’re saying, though while I’ve been critical of parts of the book, this hasn’t really been something that’s bothered me. I think this just isn’t a book I’m reading looking for tension so I’m ok with it being a series of anecdotes. It feels pretty fitting to me, in a way, for what’s a story about everyday people to not try too hard to push anything into a grand arc. Whether people are gonna love to read something without those juicy unresolved issues is a different story, but it might feel a little more artificial? A big mess of things that happened to me or that I tried to do meshes pretty well with how I think about my earlier life haha.

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I have finished this week’s assignment and it was a very pleasant reading.
I liked most:

  • the practical advices of the grandmother concerning the difficulties at school and her comment on the grades sheet
  • the sympathy of the teacher at the elementary school who gave him the best mark for the shortest essay
  • the unexpected popularity as a member and later captain of the baseball team (and grandmother’s reaction!
  • once again the support by the classmates - bringing him food and other things and transmitting what they learned at cram school

I have two questions:

  • What is やけん in this sentence? キャプテンやけんスパイク買う。
  • What do the students learn in 技術家庭?
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I believe it’s home economics, where they learn sewing, cooking, etc!

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Just finished this week’s reading. It was very nice to once again see the kindness of everyone towards him and their consideration for his circumstances. Really sweet. ばあちゃん’s reaction to his complaints about lessons and to his grades were hilarious, but I find it strange that she wouldn’t care at all about his academic progress, and even discouraged his studying into the night. I’d expect that she would see doing well at school as an opportunity for him to escape poverty? I suppose she’s just being discreetly supportive and letting him find his own way.

I believe it’s だから。

My thoughts on the book so far

As a non-fiction book that is basically a series of anecdotes from the (famous) author’s childhood, there is no tension, no worrying about the outcome. We know he had a successful career, that he regards his childhood as a particularly happy one despite the hardships, and I think he may have already mentioned details about how long he stayed with his grandmother in the prologue (and about her passing?), but I don’t remember the details.
The nature of the book is such, that while I’m enjoying it while I read, when I put it down I find I’m in no hurry to resume reading. At first I thought it was because I didn’t like it as much as other books I’m reading at the same time, but I now realize it’s only because there’s no compulsion to keep reading to see what happens next. I know what happens, so each chapter can be enjoyed as a short story, loosely connected to the rest.
Interestingly, this is the only Japanese book so far that I’ve discussed in detail with family and friends. It’s because I think that they’d find the different perspective from another era and country interesting (and amusing), and it indeed has led to many interesting discussions about other people’s experiences. It’s also easier to talk about since there’s no worrying about possible spoilers if they ever chose to read it - it’s really not the kind of book that would be affected by spoilers.

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I think that she doesn’t really care because she doesn’t care about prosperity or reputation. She lives her simple life and is happy with it. She wouldn’t need the knowledge taught at school (except perhaps for better distinguishing the 千円 and 万円 bills?).

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This bit cracked me up :grin:

「餅は分かってる。餅を持ってくるのが悪いとは言わんが、教科書は?」

and

「餅とか、じゃがいもとか、お前は、何しに学校に来とると!?」

As a teacher it’s just the sort of thing I could imagine happening!

One question: 「そこんとこを、何とか一万円で!」I guess we’re supposed to supply a verb? What verb? そこんとこ would be そこのところ?

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It’s just my guess, but I wonder if the verb isn’t 買う?

Something like:

そこんとこを = Speaking of what you just mentioned (the price)
何とか = somehow
一万円で = using a 10,000 yen bill
(買う or maybe even 払う?
) = (…I’d like to pay)

…But if not, I look forward to what the real answer is! Haha confidence! woo!

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My thoughts are mostly that, it’s a leap to assume anything when given such small glimpses, but considering her stories about how their family has been poor for generations, my guess would be she doesn’t really think about an escape from poverty as a realistic thing to worry themselves with. Of course, I suppose that’s exactly what he did do, heh.

Overall, really, I’m finding I like it more over time. With each week we get further from what I sorta took issue with in the opening and I’ve found it a little more lighthearted and fun. Not that I’d at all be opposed to a story about how terrible poverty is, it’s just that when the content was kinda bumming me out, I felt it clashed a little with the tone of how it was written. Recent chapters are just nice relaxed reads though.

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But that isn’t true after all, is it? Wasn’t it explained in an earlier chapter that the family worked for the local lord, and that she married a bicycle merchant, a wedding that was considered elite at the time? These circumstances must be very recent. I tend to think she just makes the best of every situation and tries not to worry about it, be it poverty or school. Or, as you say, these are just the glimpses we get of her.

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Through the eyes of a child, no less.

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