Week 5: アンダーグラウンド

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Week 5

Start Date: Jun 22
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Week Start Date Chapter Start Page Page Count
Week 5 Jun 22 丸ノ内線 - 荻窪行き Intro - Interview 3 133 32

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丸ノ内線 - 荻窪行き

The plan for the next train was basically the same, but this time around the attacker felt remorse and almost cancelled the attack. But it was thought out so well :flushed: Everybody attacked at the same time, and so the attacker felt he could not simply pull out.
This time both bags were pierced, and a lot of the liquid flew onto the train floor. The attacker also experienced some poisoning symptoms. But again, only one person died. I don’t really get a good sense of how dangerous it really is…

有馬光男

I don’t blame the station and train staff that they didn’t know what was going on, but it is really sad to learn that they just mopped out the train without knowing about the dangers of this substance, and that the train continued to run as-is, probably affecting a large number of passengers even after the immediate assault was over…

大橋賢二 (1)

What really aggravates me is the depicted cluelessness of the medical system in general. No matter what hospital the affected people turn to, they are either disregarded or just treated in the most general fashion possible (mainly they are just administered an IV drip, and after a few hours they are released again). No specific treatment, no antidotes for the toxic substance, nothing, it seems. This just deeply saddens me…
I mean, of course, back in the day PTSD treatment was not widely known, not even in the West, but even when the hospitals knew it was Sarin that the patients had been exposed to, they did not seem to know how to appropriately deal with them. Even leaving them in their own clothes, although the nearby hospital workers developed signs of poisoning themselves :flushed:
Luckily this man was able to get help through our doctor at St. Lucas hospital that we learned about in the previous section already.

大橋賢二 (2)

He sounded so sad and so desperate on so many levels… It sounds like a cliché, but for Japanese employees their work is really the defining factor for their lives, and I can totally relate to his despair of having his work taken from him, especially after 20 years in which he accumulated the skills to do it well. Other than in e.g. Germany, in Japanese companies there is no standardized education for a given role in a company, instead the company hires everybody from skill level 0 (no matter whether they attended university or not) and educates them according to the needs of the company. Of course different companies have different needs, and so the people learn different things… also people often don’t remain in their positions but rotate through the company, learning different skills for different roles, always specially tailored to the company. That’s why Japanese often stay in the same company throughout their whole working career, and if the company is a bad one, well tough luck, I hope you can persevere… It’s only recently that young people start valueing other things than just work, and that they start quitting their jobs if there are issues they are not willing to put up with.
But back to our hero, we’re talking about a time that is almost 30 years ago, right after the bubble, which he probably refers to as “tough economic situation”. In that time, people were tightly coupled to the company, and when the company removes his job duties from him (with the best of intent, as it seems) it leaves a big void behind that is very hard to fill for the person.
On top of that, he is still in constant pain, a condition that sounds really unbearable, and so we can only thank him that he has not killed himself so far…

This book is too hard to read, I will never finish it.
Each time I read one sentence, it sends me down a rabbit hole for the next hour :sweat_smile: (for example 三月一八日の朝、「科学技術省」上司の村井秀夫から「地下鉄にサリンを散布しろ」という命令を受けた。 sent me all the way down to 村井秀夫刺殺事件 - Wikipedia and then to Kenichi Shinoda - Wikipedia )

Oh this sounds tough :sweat_smile:
I must admit I had a similar rabbithole moment in Week 6 (will add a bunch of links in my comment) :grin:

The comment for this week looks pretty long too, looking forward to reading it! How far are you now?

I’m on the last interview of our current tram line, i.e. the first interview of Week 8. But this is an interview with a lawyer, and it is sooo hard to read, I have actually no real clue what they are talking about :flushed: Maybe I need to ask a Japanese friend to help me out a bit. Or I’ll just reread it later… Curious to hear what you think about it!
(But don’t worry, this is an exception, the others have been the same level all along.)

Interesting! Will probably be hard for me too, a lot of the things from the economist / businessman from last week went way over my head :o understood though that when they were doing well they were going every year on a company trip to Hawaii haha, that’s a fun fact. Makes sense though, as it’s only a like 7 hour flight for them. I have seen Hawaii mentioned in quite a few Japanese media already as a vacation spot (in Yotsuba for sure but I don’t remember where else right now)

The guy was stabbed to death on live TV :scream:

Yep, going down the rabbit hole included me finding and watching that video :o

Week 5

Intro

Itinerary to buy the newspaper:

中野坂上駅で「人が倒れている」という通報が乗客からあり、二人の重症者が運び出され(一人は死亡、もう一人は本書に登場する明石志津子さん〈仮名〉である)、サリンの袋は駅職員(本書に登場する西村住夫氏)によって拾い上げられ、除去された。

Spoiler alert, the lady never made it, she was bedridden for 25 years and died :frowning: source:

有馬光男

さっぱりとした顔立ちや服装や物腰のせいで、第一印象として実際の年齢よりは若く見える。
有馬光男 was 41 at the time of the incident.
Since Murakami often describes the interviewes by describing how old or young they look, compared to their age, maybe it is worth nothing that Murakami himself was 45 at the time of the incident. I’m 35 and I’ve noticed than anyone younger than that looks like a baby to me, no doubt in 10 years it will be even worse! (and I still remember when I was in my twenties, how I thought that 40 is old, haha)
四〇歳前後というのはやはり人生の節目というか、ある程度人を考え込ませる年齢なのだろう。
Speaking of which! I’m sure 40 is a very nice age :slight_smile:

その巡り合わせは、彼の生活や意識をどのように変えていったのか?
I like how Murakami describes a bit the person first and ends his introduction with a question. I don’t remember if he did that everytime but I definitely noticed it a couple of times.

Usual commute:

Commute on the day of the incident:

大橋賢二 (part 1)

Commute:

四ッ谷駅のホームのそのあたりの見晴らしがいいからです。駅の屋根が切れて、上智大学のグラウンドが見えます[…]
The view has probably changed a bit in 30 years, but the school is still there!

大橋賢二 (part 2)

Oh no, he is not getting any better. So sad, to have a life ruined like that :frowning:

Yep definitely that, I can’t imagine already how bad it must feel to be in pain every day, but not being able to perform is also a real pain and even more in his context. Especially since he also has a loan that he took the year before and that he has to pay back until he turns 70 :frowning: that should be around now actually, wish we could know how he is doing now (or do we really want to know)

And with that I’m caught up with one day to spare! Good, I can use the time to go and read something happy tomorrow, I need it :grimacing: :hibiscus: :rainbow: