Scaling the 6218 review wall

How much Japanese did you consume during those 4 months you didn’t do WK?

Resurrecting items even before you were done with your current items. You madman. 6000 reviews with 3000 in apprentice with 40% accuracy is like a half a year project :grin:. You basically have 3/4 of the whole WK in your review pile.

Kids, this is why you don’t rush through WK and drop it immediately.

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On the other hand, if I hadn’t resurrected all those items, I’d barely be getting anything right at all in the reviews.

Edit: On the bright side, I am getting some of the non-resurrected items right at least. And sometimes, there’s some that I almost got right which I think should have counted but got marked wrong by WK. For example, this morning, I guessed “honored guest” for èČŽèł“, “financing” for èł‡æœŹ and “consciousness” for 芚, but they were marked wrong.

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I know what you are going through man, i have been inactive for a while and i had to start again with 5050 reviews. been cutting away at it for a while doing mostly between 100 and 250 reviews a day and i have now cut about 1000 from my list.

I use a review reorder script and i’m just going from aprentice upwards. only about 300 guru2 items left then about 1700 master items and about 2050 up for burning. i started back in februari so the going is slow and steady, but i know ill get there eventually. it sure takes a long time. its almost like starting over. its sometimes very disheartning that ive forgotten so much but im not quitting anymore until im back at 0/0.

The wall is high but not insurmountable. keep it up bro.

to be exact. im currently at:
apprentice 248
Guru 715
Master 2106
enlightened 2063
Burned 1850

The difference between these numbers and the ones above is simply what is not yet up for new reviews right now.
still 5 more levels to go, but im not doing levels before i have atleast cut down 75% of this pile.

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For cases like that I really like the “ignore answer” script. A lot of times I’ll type something but realize it’s wrong just as I hit enter, or I’ll type something that actually has the same meaning but I haven’t been able to add a synonym for it yet, so the ignore answer function lets you not count that one. Then it gives you another chance to either get it right or add a synonym.

Accuracy was up today, so that was nice. Hopefully that means I’m getting the hang of things.

I managed to burn 降揂 pretty much just by guessing. Of course, there’s no way I could have guessed both the reading and meaning perfectly if I didn’t already mostly remember it. On the other hand, I was marked wrong on 錻歌 due to putting “hum” instead of “humming”, so I guess it balances out.

Thu May 13 2021:
Time spent: 37 minutes
Reviews completed: 70
Reviews remaining: 6164
Accuracy: 47.14% (33/70)
Accuracy on previously burned items: 67.74%

Current item counts:
Apprentice: 2836
Guru: 1162
Master: 1442
Enlightened: 3113
Burned 357

Welcome back. I followed your race to level 60 (I was myself in the 50s back then). I am looking forward to see you post in https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-00-streak-challenge some day. The number of lessons should already be near zero (except for the few new items?) so there is not so much left to do :wink:.

Wow.

Holy


I don’t want to say anything to discourage you. You got this! You can do it!

I assume you are using a reorder script and maybe doing these by levels?

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Nope, I’m not using any scripts. Part of the reason for the low accuracy is that there’s a lot of high level items in there that I have almost no chance on.

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it might be reasonable to use a re-order script and do these by level. SRS works by repeating stuff you don’t know well at shorter intervals. but if you’ve got a pile of items to review which is so much larger than what you can review in a single session, the items will almost never come back at short intervals. and then the SRS pretty much stops working.

or maybe use it to re-order so that it does items at a lower SRS stage first, that might work better.

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I did great on my review session this morning, but terrible on the one in the afternoon (only 25%), so I guess it mostly evened up, though I’m still up in accuracy overall compared to previous days.

Fri May 14 2021:
Time spent: 37m
Reviews completed: 83
Reviews remaining: 6155
Accuracy: 49.40% (41/83)
Accuracy on previously burned items: 79.49%

Current item counts:
Apprentice: 2855
Guru: 1156
Master: 1427
Enlightened: 3112
Burned 360

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Today’s the weekend, so I spent more time on reviews than usual. Unfortunately, I didn’t get through as many reviews as you’d expect proportionately. I had a worse accuracy and slower review speed than the previous two days.

Sat May 15 2021:
Time spent: 62m (1 hour and 2 minutes)
Reviews completed: 117
Reviews remaining: 6122
Accuracy: 44.44% (52/117)
Accuracy on previously burned items: 76.00% (38/50)

Current item counts:
Apprentice: 2871
Guru: 1173
Master: 1396
Enlightened: 3107
Burned 363

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On my review session tonight, I only got 9%, although I was kind of unlucky. Also, I deserved to get 花芋. I only missed it because I forgot that Wanikani specifically wants “cherry blossom viewing” for the meaning here and just wrote “flower viewing” instread. If that counted, I’d have gotten like 13% instead.

Anyway, that obviously dragged down today’s accuracy a bit:

Sun May 16 2021:
Time spent: 65m (1 hour, 5 minutes)
Reviews completed: 127
Reviews remaining: 6090
Accuracy: 38.58% (49/127)
Accuracy on previously burned items: 70.00% (35/50)

Current item counts:
Apprentice: 2895
Guru: 1180
Master: 1374
Enlightened: 3092
Burned 369

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On some like that, I’ve just added the Japanese in romaji as a synonym. Like senpai and kouhai too. Although you can’t really use hanami for other types of flowers. I’ve tried asking native speakers what they call it instead and they don’t seem to have a specific word for the same action with other flowers lol.

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I did the same with things like ougi and sensu. I mean they have things like Tsuzumi and Taiko as listed answers already so if I know the item I just add the synonym.

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I do that sometimes as well, I just hadn’t happened to do it for that particular word.

Incidentally, in yesterday afternoon’s review session, I was asked for the reading of ćčłæ°— and 慔晚 in consecutive questions. I know it’s probably just coincidence and that stuff like that will be bound to happen by chance if you do enough reviews, but I still find it amusing.

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Mon May 17 2021:
Time spent: 45m
Reviews completed: 83
Reviews remaining: 6065
Accuracy: 44.58% (37/83)
Accuracy on previously burned items: 71.05% (27/38)

Current item counts:
Apprentice: 2905
Guru: 1191
Master: 1357
Enlightened: 3082
Burned 375

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This morning, æŠœè±Ą came up for review again. It jumped out at me because I remember it being one of the first reviews when I started this challenge. Unfortunately, I couldn’t remember the answer, so I missed it once again. I was hoping that my accuracy rate would naturally go up over time because once I saw a word I didn’t know, I’d know what it was the next time it came up, but so far that doesn’t seem to be happening.

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Today was pretty frustrating, with once again missing a bunch of reviews I should have gotten. For example, I remembered 仰ぐ because it was one of the reviews that I missed early on last week and it came back up today, but I still missed it again due to getting distracted.

Also, I missed the “look at” kanji due to putting “see” as the meaning, which is complete BS (yes, I add a synonym in such cases, but that doesn’t help retroactively).

And of course, transitive/intransitive pairs continue to be a huge pain. I’d forgotten just how annoying they are. The latest victim is æłŠăŸă‚‹ which I missed due to guessing wrong on transitivity for the meaning.

My review count actually went up compared to yesterday for the second time. Not that it’s too surprising. I have to run just to stay in place.

Tue May 18 2021:
Time spent: 34m
Reviews completed: 66
Reviews remaining: 6078
Accuracy: 40.91% (27/66)
Accuracy on previously burned items: 60.00% (18/30)

Current item counts:
Apprentice: 2913
Guru: 1200
Master: 1344
Enlightened: 3074
Burned 379

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Yes, this bunch of look, see, view, viewing, look on, look at, look back on, 
 is a pain. If encountered in a text I am pretty sure to get the meaning, but seen alone I always mix them up.

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i know you’ve said that you don’t want to use a re-order script, but i think with so many reviews the SRS can’t function properly on its own.

under normal conditions, if you fail a review, the item comes back relatively soon. then you repeat the item, and reinforce what you’ve learned. this works because in normal conditions you can do all your reviews every day.

however, this doesn’t work when you’ve got this many reviews. if you fail an item, and do 60 reviews the next day, the probablility that that item will return is about 1%. indeed, it might be weeks or months before that item returns. the whole concept of spaced repetition crumbles.

by prioritising certain items (perhaps by level: top-down or bottom-up, perhaps by most recently reviewed, there might be other strategies) you can reduce the pool out of which WK selects the items it presents for review. and you can get your items at appropriate intervals again.

i hope you will take this post in the way it was intended: as well-intentionned advice. i can empathise with wanting to brute-force your way through this pile of reviews. however you attack this problem, i wish you the best of success! ^^

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