Memorizing verb forms... e.g. -tara

Does anyone know a good way to get the verb forms down? I’ve been reading on them over and over in my grammar book but I can’t even remember the basics, I’d even take an Anki deck if you have one (I hate making those things).

This site has it summarized pretty well: https://www.coscom.co.jp/japaneseverb/japaneseverb01-jpr.html

Personally I have this link saved in my browser’s favorites :star:
And I look at it pretty often.

Bu it might be too basic for what you need?

What’s helped me has been just reading a bunch. At first you’ll not remember conjugations and have to look them up every time, but you’ll start just learning them through repetition.

I struggled with the た/て conjugations for a long time, but you see them (particularly て) so often while reading that it just starts coming naturally after a while.

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It’s nice to have it all on one page on the internet but I was looking for a way of memorization, thanks though.

I just don’t know if that’s enough for me to memorize the rarer verb forms, ?

BunPro helps me with this, since it’s SRS for grammar points. :ok_hand:

Otherwise, reading indeed helps me a lot.

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If you use Kitsun.io, there’s a conjugation practice deck that might be useful :slightly_smiling_face:

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I memorize by learning one example/sentence by heart, at least for the rarer or trickier ones.

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and how do I find that?

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https://kitsun.io/store/detail/5cb36c68eb68123c400f0168
Hopefully this link works!

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To make it clear, in order to have access to the deck, you need to be signed in.

Here’s a preview:

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I almost always recommend Tae Kim’s Guide to Japanese. The information is well organized in my opinion, and shows both the ‘proper’ and the ‘practical’ side of Japanese. There is a lot of info and examples, and I enjoy that the site reads like it was meant for an adult learning japanese.

Of course, anki decks are never a bad thing either.

Already got that, but that’s not really that useful in this case because he uses his own names for the verb forms so if I wanted to quickly review to remember I would need to bookmark every section

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That’s just because no one has voted for it yet! :joy:
It doesn’t have 0 stars, it just hasn’t been rated :slightly_smiling_face:
Give me one sec and I’ll rate it :eyes:

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Basic principle: most of the verb forms are contracted, which is one of the reasons why they are so hard to remember. The rules themselves are really simple, but the contractions are not. First point: all verbs have 5 basic conjugations that correspond to the five vowels (for “u” verbs). Let’s take 飲む as an example:

飲む (sentence ending/adjectival form) – 私は飲む (I drink), 飲む人 (the person who drinks)
飲ま (imperfective: indicates the verbs action either hasn’t started or at the least hasn’t finished) – (飲まない (I don’t/won’t drink)
飲み (conjuctive: turns the verb into a noun and allows it to attach to other words) 飲み放題 (all you can drink)
飲め (potential: indicates possibility or ability) 飲める (I can drink)
飲も (volitional: indicates intention or will) 飲もう (Let’s drink/I shall drink)

Ru verbs are easier, because they all just drop “る” and leave it at that

All of the above are pretty straightforward, except 1: the conjuctive form. This is because in Japanese, the “i” sound is often contracted. This occurs when conjugating the te-from, the past tense, and a whole other slew of seemingly complicated conjugations. Let’s look.

Te-form: 飲みて is the original form (you’ll see it in really old books). However, the “i” contracts and the voiced “m” sound is transferred to “te” to make it “de” --> 飲んで
Past tense: 飲みた is the original form. Contracted, it’s 飲んだ.

There are a whole host of other rules depending on the consonant. If you’re interested to learn about them, let me know and I’ll write more. In general, just remember that when it gets weird, it’s usually because of contractions that no one bothered to explain.

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Similar response to the one above.
Maybe looking some of Cure Dolly’s video (yeah is a 3D character… I know… it’s weird… but explains it very well too ) could give you some clarity on what japanese “conjugations” are. As to why they end up looking confusing.

I wouldrecommend watch and put attention to a good explanation, and then you can SRS all you want, read, etc…, to cement it better :+1:

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How about this:

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Very cool. I see there is one for counters too.

Did you make this?

No, found it on Wikipedia. It’s easier to see the regularity of the verbs with it, when I read “masu-form” somewhere I already know it will not end well :slight_smile: