Kanji not displaying well on Linux Mint

Stalk said... I've been using Linux for a few years now. 
- Which distribution you recommend?
If you never used Linux before, you should start with something simple. Ubuntu or Mint are very good for beginners. My personal recommendation is Xubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the Xfce-Desktop-Environment. Many distributions have a Live mode, which means you just put in the DVD (or USB-Stick) and the distribution starts. You can try things out without installing the distribution.

I'd recommended LUBUNTU. Beautiful bare essentials UBUNTU distro. I also used this when programming in Ruby on Rails.



- Why do you use Linux?
It's faster and has most of the things I need for everyday use. I also love the terminal.

Huge difference in performance for a variety of things. Ruby (and Rails) the programming language and framework respectively run noticeably faster on Linux than on Windows. It was just not intended to run in a Windows environment.


Is it difficult to install?
I depends whether you have Windows on the same hdd or not. The installation itself is pretty easy. You need free space on your hard disk, since Linux needs its own partition (at least one).

The old adages of Linux being a pain in the arse couldn't be any more untrue nowadays with distributions like Ubuntu. If you want to learn Linux though, I would recommend something like Debian bare bones installation. It will force you to figure a lot of things out when making your computer work properly!

- Games and Linux. Anything I should know?
These two don't go along pretty well. Some Indie-games work under Linux (like Bastion or Don't Starve), but big titles don't work. If you're into gaming, I'd recommend a dual-boot-system (You can choose which operating system you want to boot after starting the PC)


Many games are now getting made for Linux though. I wouldn't completely rule it out. Linux is getting catered for more and more now.


- Is Linux faster than Windows (Vista, 7 or 8)
For me it's faster. Moreover, it doesn't tend to slow down after a few months of use like Windows does.

I guess speed is relative. Depends what you want to do. But overall, and if the software you intend to use is native for Linux, you can guarantee 99% of the time (don't quote me on that) that it will run faster.


Juichiro said…
 What’s the meaning of this, Apraxas? I don’t see any polar bears here?

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defaye said...
Stalk said... I've been using Linux for a few years now. 
- Which distribution you recommend?
If you never used Linux before, you should start with something simple. Ubuntu or Mint are very good for beginners. My personal recommendation is Xubuntu, which is Ubuntu with the Xfce-Desktop-Environment. Many distributions have a Live mode, which means you just put in the DVD (or USB-Stick) and the distribution starts. You can try things out without installing the distribution.

I'd recommended LUBUNTU. Beautiful bare essentials UBUNTU distro. I also used this when programming in Ruby on Rails.



- Why do you use Linux?
It's faster and has most of the things I need for everyday use. I also love the terminal.

Huge difference in performance for a variety of things. Ruby (and Rails) the programming language and framework respectively run noticeably faster on Linux than on Windows. It was just not intended to run in a Windows environment.


Is it difficult to install?
I depends whether you have Windows on the same hdd or not. The installation itself is pretty easy. You need free space on your hard disk, since Linux needs its own partition (at least one).

The old adages of Linux being a pain in the arse couldn't be any more untrue nowadays with distributions like Ubuntu. If you want to learn Linux though, I would recommend something like Debian bare bones installation. It will force you to figure a lot of things out when making your computer work properly!

- Games and Linux. Anything I should know?
These two don't go along pretty well. Some Indie-games work under Linux (like Bastion or Don't Starve), but big titles don't work. If you're into gaming, I'd recommend a dual-boot-system (You can choose which operating system you want to boot after starting the PC)


Many games are now getting made for Linux though. I wouldn't completely rule it out. Linux is getting catered for more and more now.


- Is Linux faster than Windows (Vista, 7 or 8)
For me it's faster. Moreover, it doesn't tend to slow down after a few months of use like Windows does.

I guess speed is relative. Depends what you want to do. But overall, and if the software you intend to use is native for Linux, you can guarantee 99% of the time (don't quote me on that) that it will run faster.
 Thanks for the info. I have googled it and Lubuntu is described as lightweight as fast. Good :)
Juichiro said...
Walnut said... Whatever you do don't listen to anybody who says to start with Ubuntu. It made me hate Linux until I gave Arch a shot (Things actually work with a decent distro who knew)

If you've never played with dual booting Linux before then please use Mint. Ubuntu is cancer
 lol can you be more specific?
 My experience with it (Between the 10.10 -> 11.04 update) involved it freezing up, rebooting, and then my discovering everything on the hard drive is suddenly gone and unrecoverable. This was while it was updating

I also had issues with WINE not working correctly and apps crashing. Unity was slow, unintuitive and bloated (Although you could install another flavor of Ubuntu to get around that and/or switch your DE yourself)

It wasn't a pleasant experience at all. For an OS that's supposed to be beginner friendly I found it harder to use/maintain than other distros and the community tends to try to "hack" things into working instead of getting to the core problems. I've heard it's gotten better but I still wouldn't recommend it at all a few years later

Just installed Mint. It feels so good! I feel like flying! :smiley: Everything looks so slick.

Anyone know how to get around the unmountable error when trying to mount Linux Mint iso (or Ubuntu or many of the other flavors of Linux ) in OS X? I’ve read that it has to do with the format of the ISO that is causing this (something about being formatted to be able to create bootable on CDs and USBs). One solution is to boot into Windows and burn a CD/create a USB boot disk. But that is a PITA.

It’s quite annoying when I’m trying to make VMs to troubleshoot WK :frowning:

viet said... Anyone know how to get around the unmountable error when trying to mount Linux Mint (or Ubuntu or many of the other flavors of Linux ) in OS X? I've read that it has to do with the format of the ISO that is causing this (something about being formatted to be able to create bootable on CDs and USBs). One solution is to boot into Windows and burn a CD/create a USB boot disk. But that is a PITA.

It's quite annoying when I'm trying to make VMs to troubleshoot WK :(
Can't you get acess to a Windows computer? Windows has Virtual Clone and Magic Disc and both are very good. Hopefully, someone will give you an answer on this. :)
Juichiro said...
viet said... Anyone know how to get around the unmountable error when trying to mount Linux Mint (or Ubuntu or many of the other flavors of Linux ) in OS X? I've read that it has to do with the format of the ISO that is causing this (something about being formatted to be able to create bootable on CDs and USBs). One solution is to boot into Windows and burn a CD/create a USB boot disk. But that is a PITA.

It's quite annoying when I'm trying to make VMs to troubleshoot WK :(
Can't you get acess to a Windows computer? Windows has Virtual Clone and Magic Disc and both are very good. Hopefully, someone will give you an answer on this. :)
Going back and forth between computers is not ideal for me... Mounting an iso should be non-trivial.
viet said... Anyone know how to get around the unmountable error when trying to mount Linux Mint iso (or Ubuntu or many of the other flavors of Linux ) in OS X? I've read that it has to do with the format of the ISO that is causing this (something about being formatted to be able to create bootable on CDs and USBs). One solution is to boot into Windows and burn a CD/create a USB boot disk. But that is a PITA.

It's quite annoying when I'm trying to make VMs to troubleshoot WK :(
Those ISOs have both an ISO format (which leaves the beginning of the image blank) and MBR/FAT format (which uses that blank space to overlay the boot sector for those images).

I don't know exactly why OS X is choking on them, but taking a wild guess, try nuking the first sector (which holds the MBR for USB mode). That should make pretty much everything detect it as a proper ISO image and nothing else. Make that 64 sectors to kill the EFI partition header and everything else before the ISO stuff:

$ dd if=/dev/zero of=filename_of_image.iso bs=512 count=64 conv=notrunc

I don't see why you'd have to mount it though? Whatever VM app you use should be happy using the ISO image as a virtual CD/DVD; you shouldn't need to make OS X access the contents of the ISO at all.
viet said... Anyone know how to get around the unmountable error when trying to mount Linux Mint iso (or Ubuntu or many of the other flavors of Linux ) in OS X? I've read that it has to do with the format of the ISO that is causing this (something about being formatted to be able to create bootable on CDs and USBs). One solution is to boot into Windows and burn a CD/create a USB boot disk. But that is a PITA.

It's quite annoying when I'm trying to make VMs to troubleshoot WK :(
 Check your hdd isn't plugged into an unsupported sata port. I.e. if you got a motherboard with 4 sata ports and 2 "unique" ones, take it out and put it in the standard. Then it will mount.
Juichiro said...
Darcinon said... Linux Mint Xfce is the bomb diggety. I've been using linux for years, I think it is the best operating system for watching anime! :D:D:D:D:DD:D:D:D:D
 ????
 mplayer2 + smplayer + messing around with smplayer's settings = 1080p 10bit anime goodness... okay not every system can handle that, but it kicks Window's 尻
Juichiro said.- Games and Linux. Anything I should know?
You can play old games (as in, for xp) using wine pretty well. Wine 1.6 just came out too

- Is Linux faster than Windows (Vista, 7 or 8)
 I think so. You don't need antivirus (major pain in the GHz), you don't need defragging, you don't need to download suspicious programs off the internet because almost everything you need is in the repos already, you don't need to restart every time you install something, you don't need to restart after you do updates, updates tend to actually fix problems and make it faster, and the operating systems are lighter overall.
Remember:
Windows and its programs try to give you what you (think you) want, with strings attached.
Linux tries to give you what you need, with no strings attached.

I am having problems on here. High stroke kanji are displaying poorly. I will upload a picture soon. I checked other threads with this problem made by linux users but it’s working very well. It only works if I deactivate the option “allow websites to choose their own fonts”. :frowning:

http://imgur.com/a/NkgD7#0
Kanji are not displaying properly on Linux Mint. :frowning: I have changed changed fonts but there is always a group of kanji that does not display properly. Especially high stroke kanji. :frowning: I have followed the advice given on the other kanji on linux threads to no avail.


Two months ago when I tried Ubuntu for the first time I had similar problems. While the desktop fonts looked perfectly normal, everything in the browser had this weird blurred look. I didn’t know how to fix it and went back to Windows.^^

floe said... Two months ago when I tried Ubuntu for the first time I had similar problems. While the desktop fonts looked perfectly normal, everything in the browser had this weird blurred look. I didn't know how to fix it and went back to Windows.^^
 lol When I first started reading I thought you found a solution. Then I read the bolded bit. Oh well, I guess I am back with Windows until the font issue is resolved. A pity because Linux Mint looks really cool and slick. But the browser is my life and the fonts used on Linux Mint on the browser are totally different to the ones used by Windows in the browser. And particularly in Japanese, Linux loses the match by far. Maybe when I finish Wanikani, I will switch to Linux. Until then, I stay on Windows.

Lol, you gave up fast. Linux haves tiny issues here and there, but nothing compared to Windows long term issues an annoyances, I would never switch back to Windows becasue something so small; I prefer to lose a day trying to figure it out than that.

Just in case you’re still willing to try, some of my thoughts:

  • You may be missing the fonts defined for the kanji on the site. The first and second options for fonts seem to be the defaults used on Windows and Mac; in my case, apparently my system doesn’t have any of the fonts defined on the CSS, so I’m using the default fonts and my kanji looks just like yours. You can search and download any of the fonts defined there (you can check the names doing Right Click > Inspect Element on the text and looking for the “font-family” atribute) and add them to your system.
  • Removing the attribute “font-weight: bold” from the kanji styles makes them a lot more readable (idk about pretty tho). You could make or request a simple userscript that does just that.
Anyway, sorry if I came up as mean, is just that I think that you have to be willing to deal with issues if you want to use your comp to it’s full potential.
Windows makes you feel safe by deciding tons of stuff for you and making it look good from the outside (when it works), while it is a great mess in the inside, and taking away the flexibility to customize your system as you want.
Linux on the other hand, may stand more as a mess of configurations, but once you get used to it, you can modify and make your system behave exactly like you want. I think having that kind of control is what never gonna make me turn back to Windows.

Cheers.

asermax said... Lol, you gave up fast. Linux haves tiny issues here and there, but nothing compared to Windows long term issues an annoyances, I would never switch back to Windows becasue something so small; I prefer to lose a day trying to figure it out than that.

Just in case you're still willing to try, some of my thoughts:
  • You may be missing the fonts defined for the kanji on the site. The first and second options for fonts seem to be the defaults used on Windows and Mac; in my case, apparently my system doesn't have any of the fonts defined on the CSS, so I'm using the default fonts and my kanji looks just like yours. You can search and download any of the fonts defined there (you can check the names doing Right Click > Inspect Element on the text and looking for the "font-family" atribute) and add them to your system.
  • Removing the attribute "font-weight: bold" from the kanji styles makes them a lot more readable (idk about pretty tho). You could make or request a simple userscript that does just that.
Anyway, sorry if I came up as mean, is just that I think that you have to be willing to deal with issues if you want to use your comp to it's full potential.
Windows makes you feel safe by deciding tons of stuff for you and making it look good from the outside (when it works), while it is a great mess in the inside, and taking away the flexibility to customize your system as you want.
Linux on the other hand, may stand more as a mess of configurations, but once you get used to it, you can modify and make your system behave exactly like you want. I think having that kind of control is what never gonna make me turn back to Windows.

Cheers.
 Could you please upload some snapshots of how high stroke kanji looks to you?

The kanji look horrible because WK insists on setting the font weight to bold, and the Kanji font that Linux tends to use by default really isn’t designed to be boldified.

Get the Stylish extension (available for Chrome or Firefox) and install this userstyle:
http://userstyles.org/styles/92018/wanikani-deboldify?r=1376851469

Meiryo is can be obtain from Microsoft’s website. Alternatively you can set the font weight normal through Marcan’s script.

EDIT: Nevermind, you can’t grab Meiryo from MS website. Licensing issues… If you have a Windows machine, it isn’t hard to locate the file. What you do with it is up to you.