Exhausted by reviews

Hey all, I am on level 44 and have really hit a plateau, I am getting so bogged down in reviews that I find it hard to keep using wanikani. I refuse to give up, but blowing through 400 reviews then having hundreds more within a day is causing psychic damage to me lol. I have been revisiting Genki text books 1 and 2 to spread my practice to grammar has been making it difficult to keep up with reviews. Ideally I could keep my reviews under control, but feel like Im constantly under water. Does anyone have experience with this feeling? Maybe I should try to do my new lessons to keep motivated/learning before I try to do all my reviews.

Sorry if this is a well-tread common topic, I havent really used this forum, and sorry if this is not how the forum is used, just need some support.
-Ryan

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Hi :slight_smile:
For starters stop doing lessons until your apprentice / guru count is manageable.

You have an incredibly high amount of apprentice items relative to the rest, did you do all of them in one week ?

How is your accuracy ?

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I feel my accuracy follows a curve, newer items are pretty low the first week, then things get better the longer theyre in rotation. I think I just prioritized keeping moving on lessons, but maybe thats what is putting me behind. Overall my accuracy is around 70ish percent.

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That is low to be honest. Items under master are bogging the reviews queues so that’s your main problem every failed item will come back again and again soon. A healthy apprentice count is for most users under 100 to 150. You’ve got thrice that :sweat_smile:.

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OK, well I guess its self inflicted.. I wish I had come here for advice years ago, I think I have just been digging my hole deeper over years. I think I need to more thoroughly review things that are issues for me and redo writing memorization passages and such. I usually just did it the once and then I would rewrite things in my journal everytime I had a mistake.

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The good part is that if you do not add to the pile it will solve itself in a few weeks but that won’t be fun. There are user-scripts to order review by lower level first to chip at the mountain strategically.

Or if you have a lot from the latest levels you could reset one or two level to diminish the load.

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Level 44 is plenty high to start reading and engaging with native content. I recommend putting WK on vacation mode, and using that time to read something in Japanese. If you like video games, there’s a Final Fantasy 1 Beginner Club starting soon.

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Just wondering, but how were ya able to see my stats? I think I can use my tsurukame app to order the reviews in such a way..

The Final Fantasy thing sounds fun! I have been having less and less free time lately since my full time and freelance work has been super busy lately, but would love to make time for a community thing like this to keep me motivated.

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If a user hasn’t set its profile to private you can consult https://www.wanikani.com/users/your-username

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Taking a break from the kanji is also healthy as @soggyboy said, at lvl44 you’re already way past the common kanjis and engaging with content is the best way to keep motivation up :blush:

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I don’t know if you’ve started reading books or video games already, but if you haven’t , definitely consider it.

Retention is about the feedback loop. Seeing things you’ve studied in real content will make you go “hey I remember that from X” and will create more pathways in your brain. Then when you see those again in WK you’ll remember them easier. Which in turn will help for the next time it’s in real content. Constant loop!

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That is just going to increase the number of reviews and make the problem worse.

Decide on a number of reviews you are OK with doing per day. Stop doing new lessons (or just do a very small number - 1, 2 or 3 to keep some feeling of progressing) and just do that number of reviews each day. Presuming a decent accuracy rate,

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I can’t climb out of my 200 daily hole

And my rule is I can’t do lessons unless my reviews are done

I understand the pain

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To be honest I have started being less strict with getting things accurate in the beginning and have been using the redo scripts and apps to get through early apprentice i feel like i get used to them in the following levels and get them right more often.

The community phone app has helped me do reviews in the morning. I can fire it off and lock my phone if I need to do something then get back to it in a few minutes and start where I left off. Otherwise I would have too many to do end of day.

Not a lot of help from me but feel the struggle too. :+1:

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It is OK to go slowly! Take your time, don’t stress out, go at your pace, and only do more lessons when you are done with reviews. The WK journey will take years! So be easier on yourself brother.

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Your daily review load is roughly your Apprentice count plus 10% of your Guru count. If you have 400 Apprentice, then that’s 400 daily reviews right there. Plus the items from higher levels that pop up. So if you don’t do lessons for a while and get your Apprentice count under control, your daily review load will decrease too.

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I’m doing about the same right now. and it does feel like you just described. Unfortunately no good advise though lol. I’m just pushing through it with brute force. Trying to clear them as soon as they come helps.

If you want, you could take a week or two to manage the review cycle. I think, although I’m not sure, it takes a week to half the daily review count. Depending on your accuracy of course.

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This is great advice. Personally, I’m only good for about 100 reviews in a single sitting. Any more than that and my accuracy starts to drop. Decide how many you can handle per sitting and/or per day, and just do that many. If you hit a mental wall during a review session, take a break and come back later, to keep your accuracy up. If you pause on new lessons, it should only take you a week or two to dig yourself out from your review pile, and then you’ll be better positioned to give greater focus to your new lessons.

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I’m still on level 26 and, already, I’m starting to feel overwhelmed by the review avalanche.

One thing I’ve seen people do (even in other comments here) is stopping all lessons until the numbers start to go down. At first, we don’t have many items from “master” and “enlightened” coming for reviews, so we’re not aware of what is coming for us. If you powered through a lot of lessons in a short period, this’ll happen.

Having little time to use WaniKani actually helped me, so doing 5 lessons a day helped me notice when things got too much.

So I kept my maximum “apprentice" number at 50, meaning I only had to do the "maintenance of keeping up to that. Recently my number has gone up to 60 and I felt an increase in reviews a couple of weeks later, but it’s still manageable.

I hope you find a good balance for you!

Same as you, I’m not a heavy forum user, so I don’t know if this is common.

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Lol I see a flavor of this question at least once a week.

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