Really need to get on top of those intervals, any suggestions?
Not quite sure what youâre asking. I think itâs pretty good advice to do all the reviews at least once a day. But if the problem is failing apprentice items, sometimes waiting a whole day to do the â4 hourâ review is the problem - that might be too long to refresh the brand-new items.
If thatâs the case, maybe figuring out where in a typical day you can get TWO sessions in, 4 hours apart. Then only do lessons in the first one, the other one reviews only.
it might also help if I set certain times instead of spreading them all out all over the place
just cuz itâs putting a lot of review intervals in the AMs
but yeah generally looking to speed up a little bit on wani, cuz my pace is hilariously slow
Eh, itâs not a problem to do them whenever, as long as you do have a time to finish them off. I do a few whenever I have a minute, standing in line somewhere, etc. as a bonus, but âclear the stackâ at least once a day at about the same time every day. It does tend to scatter the official ânext reviewâ times throughout the day, but thatâs not really a problem for guru+ ones. A few hours late isnât really that much. But for the apprentice ones it might be better to stick as close to the due time as possible. Being 24 hours late on a 4-hour review is significantly longer than itâs supposed to be.
Itâs about 10 days/level for me. Thatâs ânot alwaysâ doing the apprentice reviews more than once a day, but I get more strict about the exact times if my failure rate starts to get bad.
Yeah Iâm feeling like for the sake of apprentice items I should try and get some sort of consistency, especially so that my time to level up isnât over 2 weeks this early on, lol
Iâll take a break to stack up all my reviews so that I can get the interval to refresh at a specific time
latest review is at 7pm, so might do them all at 7pm, then do more again at 11pm
It also helps some people (me, for one) to not binge reviews as soon as theyâre unlocked. Ration them 15 or 20 lessons/day. Youâll know those better, fail less, and it really doesnât add more than a couple of days to a level (hence the 10, not the theoretically-fastest 7)
yeah, honestly I really do want to go a bit faster, at this rate cuz I still have some at apprentice 1, it could still take a few more days worst case to guru everything and move on. and Iâm already at 14 days, if I extrapolated out that pace for the whole 60 levels that would take so much longer than usual
17 days per level actually would only be just under 3 years, but still
Ok thatâs a legit goal, and some people do it.
One guyâs opinion, but I donât think you need to get to 60. We were just talking about it in another thread, but a lot of people start to feel like they donât need wanikani any more once they start reading with enough comprehension to learn things naturally. That happens at different points for everyone, but commonly around 25-30 wanikani starts becoming more of a âcompletenessâ challenge, just to finish.
Obviously if wanikani is all youâre going to do, then youâd want to do as much as possible, as fast as possible. But youâre definitely ready to fly out into the great beyond before 60, if you do concentrate on making each level good and not speeding through it to check the box.
Just some un-asked-for advice.
Other people would be better at âhow to go fastâ advice so Iâll leave it to the experts on that.
I mean I donât particularly see any reason in the future why Iâd need to stop using it, I already do immersion as it is
I average about 14 days a level (although I didnât for the first four or so). So, donât worry too much about speed for now!
I do lessons and reviews at 9am, then reviews again at 1pm and again at 9pm. If I miss one of those slots I fit it in when I can, but I try and keep stuff stuck to then. It helps keep the lessons relatively spread out rather than having HUGE spikes. Keeping your review times consistent also helps keep the habit going!
For sure, thereâs no reason to stop if youâre still finding it useful. The SRS is quite a lot of work for diminishing returns. Another option might be to page through the items and wanikaniâs mnemonics (which I think is where the true value is) at your own pace instead of strictly doing wanikaniâs SRS. In any case, you canât really predict that now; youâll have to play it by ear.
Mechanically multiplying level rate by number of levels might tell you how long to 60, but isnât necessarily a good measure for how long to âbe done with (needing/wanting) wanikaniâ. Thereâs certainly nothing wrong with wanting to go fast. Iâm just saying donât be discouraged or tricked into rushing at this early stage by âitâs going to take how long?â
Thereâs another way to do this.
In the scenario in the screen shot all the lessons are spaced overnight and by the time you wake up at lets say 9 there will be 23 things waiting for you. Maybe youâd prefer to do them each hour in their smaller batches. Just wait until midnight then turn vacation mode on. Turn it off at 8am the next morning and the lessons will then come at 11am, 12pm, 1pm, 5pm. The ones that were the next day will also shift forward though and the next night might not be better. But if you are ever going to wake up to 200 reviews itâs a good way to prevent that.
I can see why youâre going slowly - your review schedule lasts for the entire day. ![]()
Now, the SRS review system isnât supposed to work like this, so this could mean a few things:
- You donât do all your reviews at once (this takes priority over accuracy - if you donât do all your reviews at once, you wonât have a schedule, and your learning will be a lot less focused)
- You get a lot of them wrong and they stray out of your review schedule (whatâs your accuracy on radicals/kanji/vocab)
For the first problem, as noted on https://knowledge.wanikani.com/wanikani/srs-stages/, the timing intervals are:
Apprentice 1 â 4 hours â Apprentice 2
Apprentice 2 â 8 hours â Apprentice 3
Apprentice 3 â 1 day â Apprentice 4
Apprentice 4 â 2 days â Guru 1
Guru 1 â 1 week â Guru 2
Guru 2 â 2 weeks â Master
Master â 1 month â Enlightened
Enlightened â 4 months â Burned
Generally, itâs recommended that you get up and do WK first thing in the morning - if you do your lessons at 8AM, your first review batch hits at 12PM and your second hits at 8PM (and then every review of those lessons happens at 8PM until you burn them). You donât have to follow this - you can simply do reviews later - but you do have to do the bulk of your WK reviews at a specific time.
Now for the second possible problem - you have 6 recent kanji mistakes at 14 days in. Youâre definitely supposed to know all of the kanji fairly well by 14 days in. This in itself could refer back to problem 2 - you might just be reviewing too slowly and not fully learning the kanji, but it probably also means that you arenât fully taking in the readings/meanings of said kanji.
If you have trouble with a kanji, I recommend actively trying to fix it - if you routinely confuse it with another, make a mnemonic out of the slight difference between the two. If you forget the reading/meaning often, write down a reasoning for why it might be read that way/mean that thing (it can be ridiculous - just writing it down helps you remember).
Good luck with your WK travels and see you at level 60!
I definitely recommend making your own mnemonics as well. Not for everything, of course, but if you keep failing the kanji reading and forgetting the mnemonic, then thatâs the way to go. Also, taking a step further, if when you do your lesson youâre already struggling to visualize the mnemonic and forget it, then you might as well just take a minute or two to make a new mnemonic now. Itâll prevent you from missing a lot of reviews in the future. (Plus, Iâve also found that those couple words and kanji where I was struggling with the mnemonic and reading are the ones that I fail on guru1->guru2.) And if you immediately think of a better mnemonic for you when you do the lesson, then you can just follow that instead.
Also, have you realized that the intervals are twice as long compared to Lvl1-2? For example it took me 4-5 days to complete each of those, so double that, and you get 8-10 days, which is what Iâm on track to do for level 3. So depending on how long it took you for the previous levels, you might just be maintaining that speed.
hehe⊠problem is my sleep schedule is in constant flux, never been able to have a consistent sleep schedule for longer than a month for years at this point despite attempts, being able to consistently be awake in the morning for the sake of wanikani might not be a thing I can do, not sure.
