Absolute Beginners Book Club // Reading Next: Yotsubato!

This club won’t be reading any more than the first volume, so you’ll only have to wait on that one! There was an offshoot club that read all of the volumes of Yotsuba recently, so I think it would be a little weird to run another offshoot club so soon :thinking:

Welcome to the forums and the book club! :tada:

Sure, I was’t expecting to read the whole collection with a club. Unfortunately my autistic brain wouldn’t allow me to start volume 2 before finishing volume 1, so I couldn’t read that and other volumes separately :rofl:

But it’s fine, I have books from other beginner freindly series on order too, so I’ll read those instead :blush:

Maybe you are ready for the Beginner Book Club then :eyes: That starts a new manga this weekend btw!

Yotsuba would be a solid pick - extremely popular, funny, easy (just level 17). Also appealing to a broader audience.
I vote for Dekiru neko with an ulterior motive - maybe that it’ll motivate me to do some chores :laughing: (and I have the first volume in paper and ratings are high, though not many people voted)

I was planning to move to the beginner book club when my japanese skill was high enough that I could read the absolute beginner book club books mostly on my own. Is that a good timeframe or should I be aiming for a different moment?

I joined both at the same time since I finished the ABBC very early. It will be a bit of a jump because of the faster pace of reading. However, I found it useful even when I didn’t understand everything.

I still read ABBC and BBC books interchangeably, and ABBC isn’t particularly easy. The biggest difference to me is furigana - if you’re prepared to look up lots of words, you’re probably ready for BBC :slight_smile:

:thinking: I think you can use any approach you’re comfortable with. Theoretically, natively level should rise gradually, I guess. But I readily commit myself to a more difficult manga if it’s really interesting for me.
I would’ve checked if I liked the manga (ratings, review, etc), if yes, started it. If it’s too difficult, put it in “later” folder. Just don’t be discouraged, if it’s so. I think it allows you to see hights that you have to climb .)

I don’t really know many words outside of kanji, so furigana doesn’t really help me out much. I’m already prepared to look up lots of words since that’s basically what I’m already doing lol

Oh I doubt it. My reading and comprehension level isnt good enough for that yet I don’t think - I’ll be needing to look up a lot of stuff in anything I read, including the lower level books being voted on here. I just think I’d get through more pages each week in whatever I choose to read outside of the bookclub, not because I’m too high level for the bookclub book, just that I have loads of free time to do more than perhaps most people do, but it does still need to be teens or low 20s on natively for me at the moment.

You know, it’s really hard to figure out when the “right time” to do any of this is. In a way, I could say that starting my first book club with Gal and Dino wasn’t the “right time” in retrospect because there’s so much slang and I didn’t even understand basic conversational Japanese at that point. But I couldn’t have told you that beforehand or even during really because I didn’t have the perspective to know what I was missing. But I liked the series, which kept me reading, and I did my best and asked questions and I got something out of it. And then I read something else and had different challenges. And with every thing I’ve read I’ve hit different kinds of challenges and learned something different about the big picture of the language!

Do you want to read the book they’re reading? If you’re motivated to read it I think you’re going to have a better time than reading something easier that you don’t care about. And you’re going to not understand stuff in anything you read because you’re learning a new language. So, follow your passion and give it a go if it seems cool. You can stop if you need to and that’s okay, and you can decide at any point that the effort required is not worth what you get out of it, and that’s okay too. But you won’t know if you don’t try.

All that said, you could always read a sample on your own before you decide, or read one of the previous books using the thread as a reference.

Oh no. I’m going to have to join this aren’t I. I’ve just heard too much about よつばと to skip it. It’s an “I’m learning 日本語” rite of passage. I’m powerless against it. The unstoppable force of a tiny green haired girl.

Oh dear, there goes a few quid on an eBay hard copy.

A calamitous end to an evening. How ever will I recover.

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Hi! This is also my first time joining a book club, I’m currently looking through N5 and N4 grammar to make parsing the sentences easier. Nice to meet y’all

Oh - I actually already own this - and now that I am half-way through Genki 2, it might be a good time to tackle Yotsuba!

That’s a rather… creative use of the word “recently”. :face_with_tongue:

Been more than a year since the previous volume came out, and five years since the one before. Maybe three more years until we get another one, touch wood? The time between volumes has been increasing at an almost exponential rate, so that might even be optimistic…

Rite.

I had fun reading Kesaran, but it showed me how much I still have to learn. Mainly, it’s the grammar and kana-only words that give me trouble. I sort of wish WaniKani taught more of the common kana words, but oh well.

I recently switched to a graded reader that I think is slightly below my reading level, but it’s been pretty fun, and I don’t have to look up a bunch of words. I’m mainly using it to get used to reading Japanese. I plan to pick up a harder one pretty soon. That being said, I did read the first volume of Yotsuba a while back, and I felt it was easier than Kesaran, except when the adults are speaking.

This has also been largely my issue. I really know so few words that aren’t related to a kanji in one way or the other. I may have to study kana-only words specifically before I’m truly able to start reading.

Only a few more days!!! :raising_hands: The tension with the order now button is growing!!!

For those who have joined the ABBC before and are not sure of what else they could be doing to boost their Japanese routines before the next club, here are a few suggestions:

  1. How’s your grammar study? Interacting with native material will show you how long the road is, but fear not- there are roadmaps in the form of grammar resources! Maybe it’s time to study some new grammar points before the next book club starts :books: :pencil:
  2. Reading previous ABBC picks! The book club has a long and lovely history of helping beginners learn to read, so you can always choose a previous pick and read the old book club threads for even more grammar discussion. Common recommendations include ちいさな森のオオカミさん (The Wolf of the Small Forest) and ハピネス Happiness.
  3. Reading study with guided resources for learners! I highly recommend looking into a Satori Reader subscription as it includes grammar and vocabulary study in the context of stories written for learners. You can learn grammar via their Human Japanese and Nutshell Grammar courses as well as read stories. Here’s a thread on the forums discussing the resource!

I have no idea what that’s like

I spotted a fatal flaw in your picture