セーラー服と機関銃🏫🌺 (IBC) - Week 12

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Week 12 4 May 2024
End page 199
End point (kindle) 2476
End phrase 第三章 end of section 2
Pages 15
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Proper Nouns

Name Hiragana reading Notes Kindle location first mentioned
赤川次郎 あかがわじろう the author cover
尾田医師 おだいし Doctor Oda 24
目高組 めだかぐみ Medaka clan 86
Izumi’s family
星泉 ほしいずみ main character, Izumi 170
酒井好子 さかいよしこ aunt Yoshiko 172
星貴志 ほしたかし main character’s father, Takashi 179
酒井呈一 さかいていいち Uncle (Yoshiko’s husband) 201
知子 ともこ Tomoko (?Izumi’s mother) 211
マユミ - mysterious woman in Izumi’s apartment 348
土田恒美 つちだつねみ Tsunemi, real name of the woman pretending to be Mayumi 1,827
Classmates
奥沢哲夫 おくざわてつお Classmate of Izumi, Tetsuo (son of an executive, smart dresser, family expect him home for dinner on time) 251
渡辺周平 わたなべしゅうへい Classmate of Izumi, Shuhei (stocky, bowlegged, loves Judo) 251
竹内智生 たけうちともお Classmate of Izumi, Tomo. (Smart, heading for Tokyo university, wears glasses) 261
和子 かずこ classmate, 433
Schoolteachers
三浦久子 みうらひさこ Miss Miura, teacher 357
保科校長 ほしなこうちょう Headteacher Hoshina 368
Yakuza
健次 けんじ Kenji, Medaka gang member, short, unbalanced (brought the doctor in the car in the prologue), chews gum 555
英樹 ひでき Hideki, Medaka gang member, skinny and unhealthy looking, wears thick glasses 556
武 たけし Takeshi, Medaka gang member, stocky and overweight 558
佐久間 さくま Sakuma, Medaka second in command, unusually tall (‘beanpole’), in 50s 558
浜口 はまぐち Hamaguchi, local Yakuza chief 1,034
関根 せきね Sekine, head of the Matsunoki clan 2,141
元 げん Gen, Yakuza henchman in the Matsunoki clan 2,306
剛 つよし Tsuyoshi, yakuza henchman in the Matsunoki clan 2,306
Other characters
黒木 くろき detective, head of the S section 870
浜口物産 はまぐちぶっさん Hamaguchi trading company 936
野田代議士 のだだいぎし Representative Noda, politician, waiting for Hamaguchi 1,064
岩田 いわた Night watchman at Izumi’s apartment block 1665
関根正明 せきねまさあき Son of Sekine, the head of the Matsunoki clan 2,073
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This week is to the end of section 2, right?

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Thanks. I’ll fix that

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The お嬢さん conversation

A couple of bits I couldn’t work out in this dialogue
Sakuma says that he is a widower and then says 出入りのとばっちりでね
and then
それでもまだ足を抜けないんですからねえ。つくづくバカだと思います。
I couldn’t work out what he was saying with either sentence here

A page or so later, Sakuma says
「えらく、こうーさめてるというか、溺れない、というか」
and then Izumi replies
きどってるだけ女の子には人気ないんですもの、私。同性に人気がない人は本当にいい人じゃないっていうでしょう。
again, I’m struggling to unpack this

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The お嬢さん conversation

This is my rough take of it, although I wouldn’t be surprised if I was missing a lot of nuance:

出入り can be used to mean ‘dispute’, as in ヤクザの出入り. とばっちり means ‘getting mixed up in’, so he seems to be saying that his wife got mixed up in or died as a result of a fight between yakuza groups.

Then he says
それでもまだ
Even so, (I) still
足を抜けないんですからねえ。
can’t leave the yakuza (lit: I can’t pull my feet → can’t get myself out of a bad situation)
つくづくバカだと思います。
I think it’s (I’m?) really foolish.

Later, Sakuma says:
えらく、こうー
Amazingly, this way (that you handle yourself)—
さめてるというか、溺れない、というか
Should I call it being composed or, not floundering?

Then Izumi replies:
きどってるだけ。
I’m just pretending
女の子には人気ないんですもの、私。
Because I’m not popular with girls.
同性に人気がない人は
People who aren’t popular with the same sex
本当にいい人じゃない
aren’t really good people
っていうでしょう。
it’s said.

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I wonder:

Could 黒木 be the man in the lingerie shop? That wouldn’t necessarily mean that he is the murderer of 健次. Perhaps he is following 泉 everywhere to observe/protect her or to find out whether she knows something about the ominous package. So he could still be a real policeman or a very bad guy … In any case he is well informed about what happens to 泉.

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Mmm, I don’t think any of the yakuza have seen 黒木, so I guess that’s possible. Certainly 黒木 still seems pretty suspicious.

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Thanks, that is very helpful

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I think the fact that whoever it was made sure they weren’t seen or caught by Izumi makes them suspicious and likely the murderer of Kenji (given they were following 元 and 剛).

Also the fact that the lady at the shop said that a detective warned her about Izumi, although it almost seems to line up too well.

I would say Kuroki seems like the most likely. Maybe he has been a red herring all along, but in that case I have no clue who could plausibly be a villain instead (if they’re a character we already know).

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Same here.
It was also interesting that the man in the blue suit was so sure that Izumi was going to go into the store alone that he prepared a story to make the saleswoman slow her down. This seems like a clue that it was someone who knows her.

Regarding Kuroki, his phone call afterwards also seemed mildly interesting. He knew that Izumi had gone to the Matsunoki group but seemed surprised to hear the details. So I guess he was trailing her, but doesn’t have anyone on the inside.

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Perhaps, but I think the main aim of the story was that it persuaded the saleswoman to let the man through into the back of the store (where he was able to escape). Slowing Izumi down if she did follow on her own was just a bonus.

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