As our resident expert, I’m sure you could do it. You never know until you try.
I hope they do add 10 more levels, at least enough to cover all of N1’s kanji. They’ll probably do it after they’re done with EtoEto, so. . . . . . . . . . . . . . never : (
There’s not really that many more kanji that would ever appear on N1 that aren’t part of WK. Not enough for 10 levels, anyway.
People often erroneously use the number of joyo kanji as the number of kanji that could appear on N1, but I don’t think there’s any direct evidence for that. It’s just an easy number to point to.
I’d prefer they add more vocab for the kanji that are already on the site. It’s quite often that I find myself unable to read verbs with kanji I learned here. I’ve had to pick up 催す, 抱える, 図る, 強いる, 率いる, 教わる, 満たす etc. from other sources.
For some reason this got me curious and I did the math nobody was asking for.
50,000/30 (Probably the average for Wanikani) means it would take and extra 1667 levels to complete
If you finished a level a week, it would take 11669 days to complete
This means technically you could learn this in roughly 31-32 years
I guess they better get studying
Lol there are tens of thousands of kanji, many of which you will literally never encounter unless you’re reading some like 13th century poetry or something. There’s far better uses for your time than continuing to learn extremely uncommon kanji. As others have said, once you get to the higher levels you can just start reading native material and self-learn any kanji not on WaniKani that DO come up.
CyrusS recently said that if they did add more kanji they’d more likely put them into existing levels than add new levels. If they fleshed out each level with a few more kanji, they’d likely end up with something like 100-200 more kanji, if that. It definitely gives them a lot more flexibility than trying to figure out how to get ~350 more kanji for 10 new levels.
Yeah, I agree. Plus, I don’t think the fast levels should exist. Sure, they’re cool for those that do them fast, but in the whole scheme of things, it doesn’t make sense having these many fast levels.
Plus, they should do something with the kanji without vocab, even if that means removing them… It just doesn’t make sense to learn kanji without vocab on wk…
They could always break their system and have to guru the first set of kanjis, instead of radicals, in the levels with too few radicals. Release half the kani at level up, and have to guru 90% of them to open the rest.
But probably will stick to letting us decide to self regulate this.
Yeah, I don’t know. Thinking of solutions when the update for the radicals isn’t ready/released yet might be a waste of time tbh
Adding to Goja’s suggestion:
About that deck: it’s not very beginner friendly, though, so I wouldn’t recommend trying it before having a fairly high level on WK (and for most people there’s just no reason to use it before level 60 anyway).
Once you’re in the 現実 levels, WK becomes an exhausting sprint anyway, with every level having become a fast level. I can’t imagine wanting to pile more kanji study on top of that.
Much more than what we learn here would be overkill. Take 箋 for example - the modern Japanese language has exactly 2 non-archaic words that still use it, and in both cases, this kanji is usually written in hiragana.
No need to anyway, it’s easy to memorize. Take a look. Make up a memory aid. Now it’s yours, but you’ll likely not see it anywhere ever again, at least not if you just live a normal life in Japan and don’t read obscure ancient texts or crazy visual novels that try to come across sophisticated.
The Dai Kan-Wa Jiten , the main reference dictionary of kanji published in japan contains 50,000 characters. Obviously most of those are incredibly obscure.
Interestingly, I learned that one in the wild from frequent exposure to 処方箋
The hospital I was going to was using the full kanji version on their prescription. I guess they were feeling fancy. After going there on a regular basis for 6 months, I was pretty much set for life.
But, yeah, obviously there’s no need to study that kanji, for the exact same reason. Honestly, there’s no need to even go beyond level 50 on WK, if you think about it. It’s just nice to have the option.
My main reason to go with the beyond WK deck is that there are many kanji “in between”, that I see often, but not often enough to remember. For instance, one of the last book I read had the word 歩哨 (sentry). I bumped into that word again recently, but had forgotten the reading. So I was happy to get 哨 in that deck. Same goes for 鷲 叢 and 趙. Obviously, I could eventually learn them through exposure alone, but the fact they are infrequent makes that natural process harder. YMMV
Have you learned any kanji from WaniKani that you didn’t know at all? Or just ones that you kind of knew and solidified?
It’s a bit of a diminishing returns problem. At some point, just reading does more for you than studying flashcards. My personal goal is to rush through one of the core decks on iknow later (to pick up words I missed and solidify kanji I’m still shaky at), and yeah I think lvl 50 should be more than enough for that.
Personally, I’ve only ever seen 処方せん here, I must have missed all the fancy hospitals Then again, I’m a simple man, hehe.
Depends of what you mean by kanji I didn’t know at all. There were kanji that I had seen before, but I was unable to produce either a meaning nor a reading. A recent one was 墟. At first I went ???, but once I saw the associated vocab word 廃墟 I suddenly remembered where I had seen it before. But yeah, in isolation, that was completely blank for me. However, there hasn’t been a kanji that made me feel like “nope, never seen that in my life”
It’s mostly consolidation, though. There are about 3-4 kanji at each level for which I could not remember the meaning or the reading. (I think level 31 had 10 such kanjis; I wasn’t very happy about it at the time)
I agree, but it goes both ways. There’s just so much reading can do for you. At some point, reading more won’t give you much improvement. Especially since I’m reading a bit all over the place in terms of style/content.
Moving from there, I guess I should have started writing instead, to fixate stuff more, but instead went back to SRS…
The curse of Level 31, huh?
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