i know i knowā¦hehehe I need to finish vol 1 of motoā¦ probably will do that this weekend 
Meanwhile CDJapan and Amazon orders ā¦ yeah havenāt placed any new ones ā¦ 
nope ā¦ 
new books are so much fun to buy
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Yes, you certainly donāt want to bear my wrothā¦ 
I kid, of course. 
Reading ahead is perfectly fine by me! Iām just enjoying the leisurely pace, since Iām reading a bunch of other things at once right now. This and Ayumu are my comfort reads to make me feel like I know Japanese again when other things beat me up and make me cry. 
I mean, Iāll take the ego boost.
Iām just always feeling like I still have so much to learn, and my speaking skills are ehhhh at best, so āintermediateā always feels like a heavy label to place. But I also have this mentality where I would rather assume Iām worse at it than I am, and be pleasantly surprised, than assume Iām gonna do great and bomb it entirely.
And then there is vocab that you know intimately, but are doubting you will see it used anywhere elseā¦ (馬ćåć has been conspicuously absent in literally anything besides äŗēåć®č±å«ā¦ @ChristopherFritz, reassure me. It exists elsewhere, right? )
Enjoy your vacation, and best of luck!!!
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I get it. I also guess that this famous plateau is where people that are truly passionate with it and have worked till it with method, are separated from the ones that in truth donāt give a fuck about it. Tofugu guides also suggest that the time spent in this plateau can be reduced if there was a good method with the study, I wonder what this really is about and what comes next (just out of curiosity. For now Imm just enjoying - a lot - the journey)
They say waiting for the pleasure is the pleasure itself how much does it takes you now to go thru one chapter?
I think itās a good pace 7 days per chapter, also if youāre faster, waiting a bit and spread the chapter over the 7 days can make the reading even more enjoyable, if youāre like me
I feel very often like this 
especially when Iām putting in an insane amount of effort 
Cool, I envy you! Iām about to start a new work the first of July and wonāt have many opportunities to travel but having never been in Japan Iād like A LOT to visit it eventually
me too at everything 
knowing this is knowing ourselves tho, I think that being conscious of it is a huge step forward, and helps you know when youāre working too much and when youāre not working enough
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Please donāt ask me to lie!
Okay, go watch episode 146 of the original Sailormoon anime.
Sorry, thatās all Iāve gotā¦
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Iām watching the episode right now, noticing that the lyrics are almost exactly as the manga and that I can recognize everything they say is the best feeling in the world!
A curiosity, in the anime adaptation, in this precise moment:
(Second box, where takagi doesnāt say anything)
ććć ćć¾ććććć£ć¦ćć ć
(Not in the manga ->) **ćøćć¼ć¼ļ¼å„ć«ļ¼
Etcā¦
What does this å„ć« mean here? Doesnāt look like the usual ānothing special/ particularā or something like thatā¦
I forgot how good is the anime adaptation!!
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So when I read my first mangaā¦I diedā¦doing everything you are doing now it took me hours upon hours to get through a single page. Donāt feel bad when I tell you that I can get through a chapter of this in about an hour sometimes less, sometimes more depending on if thereās vocab I have to stop and look upā¦ That saidā¦ @VikingSchism posted this on our vol6 thread
Just keep goingā¦youāll get faster It just feels like it takes a while and can be frustrating when you end up feeling slow when you are doing just fineā¦ Serious about my recommendation to stick with a chapter a weekā¦until you finish this vol thoughā¦donāt wanna ruin the funā¦ the first manga you read will really be painful but when itās done itās gonna be even more thrilling than just a single chapter!!!
As an asideā¦I have tried other short novels before but either they took too long or I couldnāt get into them (you probably are no where near ready yetā¦but when you are I am really enjoying å¤ć«ćć§, finished Ch8 yesterday and itās holding my interest and the difficulty level for me now is just rightā¦ working on the longer sentences and such where I have struggled for a long time and itās getting easier to process (if there were more kanjiā¦ugh why so much hiragana!!! donāt always parse things right but getting better hahaha) This will be the first short novel I actually finish (and probably keep reading!)
donāt worry the train feels like itās going slower the further you go hahaā¦ just keep goingā¦this is probably why a lot of people give upā¦it starts to feel impossible sometimesā¦
Went 25 years ago (pre google maps/translation tools, didnāt know any Japanese) but it was only for 3 days and not really a vacation so this will truly be like the first timeā¦ really starting to get excited ā¦ hoping no wwIII, covid BS,ā¦monkey poxā¦FFS I just wanna take a vacation hahaha
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anime and manga speech doesnāt always match 100% donāt worry too much
Yesā¦you got itā¦ å„ć«ā¦itās just like when you are chatting with someone in English and sort of thinking about something and other person gives you a look or asks what is itā¦you can say nothing, or oh nevermindā¦ Itās not quite filler but itās like fillerā¦
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Wow, one chapter per hours seems like a lot 
what do you mean with āwhen itās done itās gonna be even more thrillingā¦ā?
Iām definitely looking forward reading my first novel but Iām probably something like 6-12 months away at best 
Well, the possibilities of something going wrong have never been higher than now, not to throw bad luck at you I hope everything settles and maybe for the next april-may Iām going to travel with my brother there too 
how long are you planning to stay there?
Oh no Iām definitely not worried and I was expecting that for sure, I was just wondering in this particular instance what å„ć« means since I never heard it used this way - in my reduced experience
Got it
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when you finish the whole volume ā¦ not just one chapter
a monthā¦
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Iād be lying if I said Iām not looking forward to thatā¦ at the moment Iām just trying to focus on the quality of my reading - trying to really understand everything the best possible, should I spend 5 hours looking after a grammar topic. Donāt know if this makes sense
May I ask you guys a suggestion about my studies:
When I started, I was using a lot a precise method and schedule, and worked a lot with books. Now that Genki 1 is over and that I have that bare minimum knowledge to go thru an ABBC manga, I stopped studying grammar on books (even tho I do 2x + the work just by looking up things online). I also drastically slowed down SRSing vocabs from genki and WK - at the moment Iām learning 5 WK elements a day and 5 vocabs from the most used words list that @ChristopherFritz provided. This rhythm will take me 5 years for WK lv60 but I thought - in the end the level is not important, itās about stockpiling knowledge everyday that matters. So I slowed down
Does this seem enough to you guys? Is this a good plan/ can I keep going on like this or would you suggest some changes?
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keep going with whatās workingā¦
as far as WK timingā¦donāt worry about itā¦been doing WK non stop for years and still only level 40 ā¦ never resetā¦search my previous posts for the whole leech nonsenseā¦my current level up is 42-45 days nowā¦all due to leeches (yes Iām dumb)ā¦WK has no leech manager and all it will do is slow you downā¦so either use the reorder scripts when you get fed up or just go slowā¦it really is horrible IMO that WK keeps adding vocab and playing around with the forum hearts or other responses when those arenāt actually brokenā¦for the love ofā¦built in leech manager already!!! Gonna keep complaining until someone gets off their tookus and actually works on itā¦ and until they do I donāt recommend WK to anyone anymore. Though this is a separate topic you can search the forumsā¦itās been a problem from the beginning and WK continues to ignore the fatal flaw of their system (IMO)ā¦
As far as your studying goesā¦I think what you are doing is just fineā¦there are times youāll spend what seems like a ridiculous amount of time on something but just keep goingā¦ itās okā¦ and also as things change with life, chaos, etcā¦or as you learn more youāll adjust your learning plan as you goā¦ try to enjoy the pain and if you feel like drowning, change gears ā¦
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I will follow your advice, thanks 
Forgive my ignorance, but when you say āleechesā I donāt know what youāre talking about
(Tried googling it, only the slimy animal comes out)
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In this sense, a leech is a word that you just arenāt learning, for one reason or another, so it stays in your review queue forever, slowing you down. Once you get enough of them, they can be a major detriment to an SRS system like WK because you spend all your time trying to review things that never clear instead of learning new things and carrying on with the system.
Much like a real leech drains your blood and can make you sick and fatigued, these words drain your mental energy and time, making it harder for you to continue learning.
My leeches tended to be baseball terms and military rankings in WK. And indeed, Iāve actually put WK on vacation mode recently because it felt like all my reviews were leeches and werenāt really doing much for me (for now). I may come back to it later at some point, but decided that my time was better spent doing more reading or listening and learning words I wanted to know rather than failing å°å° vs å°ä½ for the umpteenth time.
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now I get itā¦ hereās why leeches haha! I already have some if Iām not wrong, words that I canāt learn and periodically fail and they remains in the queue. But I see that one thing is having 5 leeches, and another thing is being merged under hundredsā¦
Fuck! I didnāt knew I was going to learn such things! Now that you make me think about it, they could become pretty extenuating.
From the desperation of @shuly ās last message I guess there is nothing at all we can do about it then.
Has there ever been an actual discussion about it with some moderator or stuff members here on the forum? A poll or something?
sounds legit
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I believe there are some scripts that people have written to try and tackle it, and the Extra Study Mode that WK recently added is a good way to to about it (if you look at the word more, it will stick eventually), but yeah, itās a difficult thing to try and fix. Others would be better served to answer what scripts exactly to look into for the issue.
Itās been pretty widely talked about, and the Extra Study Mode being added tells me that the WK staff are aware of the issue and trying to come up with solutions. Itās just not an easy thing to tackle, unfortunately, and different things will work for different people.
When I had some really bad ones, learning the kanji stroke order and writing them by hand helped a lot. Anytime you come across something in the wild, in a book or a manga, that gives your brain something to connect it to as well, so that helps. Itās just a multi-pronged process and I donāt think there is a Holy Grail solution, unfortunately.
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I see, nothing is easy, especially for a platform as big as WK. Having the chance to jump the leeches if youād like to, seems like something that should be implemented tho. Of course it would be limited to a specific amount of elements such as words purposely marked as unnecessary, or something like that. But I see that there could be many problems Iām not considering
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Back to reading 
Chapter 2, page 2
č„æē: ććććŖćā¦ćæććŖę„½ćććć§ć
- ćććŖć ā āIām jealousā this is the translation I found on hinative but Iād like to know why it is
- ćæććŖ ā āeveryoneā
- ę„½ććć§ ā ālooks funā guess made by adding the noun ćć for guesses. What comes after, I guess, itās just the conjugation form of the copula ć
āHah, Iām jealousā¦ looks like everyoneās having fun.ā
é«ęØ: ććć¼ćć¼ćć
- ćć¼ćć¼ ā āthatās trueā Iām not sure because everyone on hinative translates it as āwellā or ālet me seeā but this doesnāt feel right here
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For organizationās sake, now that you are on the second chapter, you should jump over to the Chapter 2 Thread!
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Oh, I didnāt knew it existed actually, I was convinced it was grouped by volumes! Deleting it here and moving it there the.n
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Everything post-Volume 1 is grouped by Volume. Volume 1 is grouped by chapters, since there was a lot more interactivity, being a larger club at the time, and it wiuld have been a nightmare to have the whole book in one club. Now that we are a smaller group, by volume works well.
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