I feel like I am going crazy. The numbers for the kanji, don’t have the same pronunciation as the vocabulary, which isn’t always the same as the number of things, and on top of that doesn’t use the same for the number of days.
How do you keep all the numbers apart? I feel like I am on numbers overload. Words like sixteen or other counting type ones are so easy.
Yeah, all the different numbers are a mess. I think they may have been a major contributing factor for me not continuing past level three the first time I tried WK. You just have to push past them to get to the normal vocabs that usually follow the normal rules.
You will also come across 人 and 日 which will try your patience. Just know that we’ve all been there and it really does get better. (I may or may not still have some counter items in my apprentice queue while I’m on level 15…)
Ooo Also! If you listen to any J-pop try to find some songs with counting in them.
It’s not anything distinct to numbers. It’s just like with the readings for a wide variety of words. Sometimes the kunyomi reading is used and sometimes the onyomi reading is used. Just like with anything else, you need to just remember when a counter uses the kunyomi vs onyomi reading. It’s like how 人 can be ジン, ニン or ひと.
For example in the cases you mention, む is the kunyomi for six and ろく is the onyomi.
there are lots of alternate kun readings and no obvious way to figure out which one is to be used in the case of counting days. just memorize it or think of a dumb story… like driving your car past a bunch of french cows.
When I was learning Norwegian and Dutch I also had a hard time with numbers, but the more I progressed in the language the more natural and obvious it became. Same thing with very similar words, the more I experienced them the more I could differentiate their subtleties.
For me it’s one of those things that comes naturally with experience, so when learning languages I don’t put too much effort in counting/expressing values.
My advice is not necessarily to avoid understanding all the different forms and types of numbers, but to not give it too much thought and effort either.
Numbers are one of the few things that I had to study outside of WK due to the SRS not being enough for me. I made a little Anki deck with them (easy since you don’t need many cards) and supplemented my WK with that. It worked pretty well for me.