January 29th
Aria: the masterpiece volume 3 โ progress report
Yesterday: Continued up to page 128.
Today: Read up to page 143, finished chapter 24.
Finished chapter 24, ended up feeling indifferent towards it.
While I enjoyed Alicia not having any of Akiraโs cr***, this chapter also featured one small scene with one of my least favourite tropes(?) in media that is especially prevalent in Japanese media.
I canโt describe it very well but itโs when (Iโll just use random names from now on) โPeterโ โ usually someone of โhigher rankโ or mentor or parent or older sibling โ is acting in a constantly somewhat maliciously teasing or tough-love (sometimes including threats or hitting) or cold tsundere-ish kind of manner towards โSamโ and an outsider person โMaryโ amusingly looking at their interaction and pointing out โthat Peter is such a good person (deep within).โ
I canโt think of many examples on the fly, so Iโll just use two from the material Iโm currently reading. One would be this chapter with Akiraโs behaviour towards Aika and Alicia saying that Akira is a good person and another one Touya teasing Sakura all the time and meanwhile Tomoyo and Yukito both saying that theyโre such a wonderful pair of siblings.
I have encountered this โtropeโ at least a dozen times by now, and I highly dislike it. To me it feels like โMaryโ is not even considering how a cold or hot-and-cold treatment towards โSamโ may have affected them and in a way immediately siding with the questionable or even outright abusive โPeterโ and calling that person โgoodโ of all things. Meh.
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Word or expression of the day:
ใใใชใใใช - this and that, various things
Honourable mention(s):
้ญใฎๆ - (ใพใฎใฆ) - evil influence, (evil) clutches; tentacles of evilโ
Day 28: January 28th
ๅๆขๅตใณใใณ Volume 13 (71% โจ 81%)
Sometimes, the more free time I have available to read, the more projects I end up spending time onโฆ
Has anyone considered just writing Bookโโer, and trusting the readers to fill in the correct site?
Brilliant! Thatโs the way going forward
29 jan
ใฎใชใฎใชใ ใชใใใ
idk what happened to today but i ended up not really having time or mental concentration to approach ๅๆใฏๅใฎๅ so i just played granblue for about half an hour (did some main quest stuff and some side quests) and iโve got the apollo justice japanese script up while i play through again. will be better next week!
The Tanuki Kotatsu Reading Den
January 29th
ๆฐๆธๅคช้ฃ่จ progress: 05.15% // Volume I: 59.72%
This is a long chapter with lots of long dialogue, I keeping losing my place.
Please samurai guys, use some full stops.
Words found under the kotatsu
ๆตทๅใใใชใฐใใใผ Ocean; the deep
ๆผซ็ถใใพใใใใใผ Aimless; rambling
ๅฟใ
ใใใใใพใใพใใใใผ Annoying; provoking
็ฉบๅฏใใใใใใใถใใใผ To feign ignorance/unconcern
่ ใใชใใใซในใใชใใใผ Curt; point-blank
ๅฐ่ใใใใใใผ Under your arm; in your armpit
Forms
้จใ ๏ผ ๆฌบใใใใใใใ(to deceive/delude)
Character Name List
Probably some spoilers, but this is a historic novel, so can spoilers really exist for things that have (for the most part) actually happened
Volume I: 1535 - 15??
ๆฅๅใใฒใใใ- Hideyoshi (as child)
Nicknames: ็ฟใใใใ/ ้ๅฃฒใใใฏใใใใ
Family
ๆจไธๅผฅๅณ่ก้ใใใฎใใ ใใใใใ- Father
โ โ ไน่ฅใใใจใใใ- Old friend
็ญ้ฟๅผฅใใกใใใฟใใผ Step-father
ๅคงๆฟๆใใใใพใใฉใใใ// also ใๅฅๅ ใใใชใใใผ Mother
ใใคใฟ - Older sister
ๅฐ็ซนใใใกใใ- Baby brother
ๅ ่คๆธ
ๆญฃใใใจใ ใใใพใใ// also ๅผพๆญฃใใ ใใใใใ- Ojisan (only distantly related (before marriage))
โ Married to: ใใใค (sister of ใๅฅๅ )
Friends & Acquaintances
ไป็ใใซใใใ- Big kid friend
ๆผ็ฆใใใตใใ(Nickname - full name: ็ฆๅคช้ใใตใใใใ) // ๆฅๆฏ็ฆใใใใใใตใใ(Chinese name/birth name) - Timid kid friend (older than Hideyoshi)
โ ไบ้ๅคงๅคซ ใใใ ใ ใใใ// ็ฅฅ็ใใใใใใใ(Chinese name) - Father
โ ๆขจ็ดใใใใใ- Mother
ๆจๆฌก้ใใใฆใใใใ- Previous servant to ไบ้, later the adoptive father of ๆผ็ฆ, and owner of a tea ware shop - and employer of, and master to, Hideyoshi
Hachisuka Clan
่้ ่ณๅฐๅ
ญใใฏใกใใ ใใใใ(also ๆญฃๅ ใใพใใใคใ) - Head of the Hachisuka clan
โ ไธๅ
ใใชใชใใ- Younger brother
โ Married to ๆพๆณขใใพใคใชใฟใ
โ โ ไบไธใใใใใกใ- Son
Retainers:
โ โ ็จฒ็ฐๅคง็ๅฉใใใชใ ใใใใฎใใ]
โ โ ้ๅฑฑๆฐไธใใใใใพ ใใใใกใ
โ โ ้ทไบๅไนไธใใชใใ ใฏใใฎใใใใ
โ โ ๆพๅๅ
ๅ ใใพใคใฐใ ใใใฟใ
โ ๅฝๅใใใซใใใ- Gunsmith/blacksmith
โ ๆธก่พบๅคฉ่ตใใใใชใน ใฆใใใใ- Deserter - Nobushi (Nephew to Koroku)
โ ้ฃๆณขๅ
่จใใชใใฐ ใชใใใ- Spy disguised as a Komuso
โ ไป็ฐๅฝฆๅใใซใฃใ ใฒใใใ
ใใ- Subordinate
(่้ ่ณๆญฃๅฉใใฏใกใใ ใพใใจใใ- previous head of the Hachisuka clan)
Saito Clan
((questionable) Alliance with the Hachisuka clan)
ๆ่ค ้ไธใใใใจใ ใฉใใใใ- Head of the Saito clan
โ ๆ่ค็พฉ้พใใใใจใ ใใใใคใ(also: ้ซๆฟใใใใพใใ) - Son
ๆๆบ ๅ
็งใใใใก ใฟใคใฒใงใ(common name: ๅๅ
ต่กใใใ
ใในใใ) - serves under Dosan
โ ๅๅธใใพใใใกใ- Underling / foot soldier
ๅผฅๅนณๆฒปๅ
ๆฅใใใธใใ ใฟใคใฏใใ- Retainer (cousin to Jyubei)
โ ๆๆบๅ
ๅฎใใใใก ใฟใคใใใ- Father
Oda Clan
็น็ฐไฟก็งใใใ ใฎใถใฒใงใ- Daimyo
โ ็น็ฐไธไธ้ใใใ ใใใถใใใ- Younger brother
Shiba Clan
ๆฏๆณข็พฉ็ตฑใใใฐ ใใใใญใ- Head of the Shiba clan, at Kiyosu castle
Others
ไปๅท็พฉๅ
ใใใพใใ ใใใใจใ- Daimyo
Historical People
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้ฟๅไปฒ้บปๅใใใน ใฎ ใชใใพใใใผ Japanese scholar & poet (700s)
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็ฝๆฅฝๅคฉใใฏใ ใใใใใผ Chinese poet (Bai Juyi / Bo Juyi) also known as: ็ฝๆฅฝๅคฉใใฏใ ใใใฆใใin Japan. (Late 700s)
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้ๅ ใใฉใใใใ(or ้ๅ ็ฆ ๅธซใใฉใใใ ใใใใใผ Japanese Buddhist Priest, writer & poet (also known as ๆ ่ฅฟ็ฆ ๅธซใใใใใ ใใใใ) (Early / mid 1200s)
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็ฉบๆตทใใใใใใใผ The one and only Kukai or Kobo Daishi - a Buddhist monk. Posthumously given the title of: ๅผๆณๅคงๅธซใใใใผใ ใ ใใใborn as: ไฝไผฏ ็้ญใใใใ ใฎ ใพใใ(late 700s / early 800s)
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ๆบ้ ผๆฟใใฟใชใใจ ใฎ ใใใพใใใผ Prominent poet and warrior (1100s)
One of the tenets of bushido is that you never end a sentence before your brush runs out of ink and you need to refresh it on the inkstoneโฆ
Home Post
Week 4 - Jan 23rd to 29th
Last week was my first time reading a manga in just two sittings, this week I read ๆฅๅธธ volume 1, and a bit over half of ๅค่ฆใใใฏใใณใใฅ็ใงใใ volume 1. Iโll also be reading a few more chapters of the latter tonight. ๆฅๅธธ turned out to be funnier to me as a manga than as an anime (and the anime is hilarious) so I canโt help but smile when thinking about reading the rest of the series Iโll have to try out CITY too (aslo by ใใใใใใใก).
I initially meant to read ๅค่ฆใใ with the BBC in Feburary but itโs my last non-ใใคใฐ manga with full furigana coverage and so I wanted to read it before I got started reading something without that level of support. Iโm still planning to keep an eye on the book club threads and Iโm bookmarking dialogue I might want to revisit with the club:) Having also seen the anime version of ๅค่ฆใใใฏใใณใใฅ็ใงใ Iโm noticing that I enjoy the manga more than the anime in this case as well. I didnโt expect Iโd discover a general preference for manga over anime but Iโm starting to suspect that might be the case. I guess Iโll probably like novels even better once I get around to reading them
Did you have to buy the japanese version of the game or does it have a jp option? I adore klonoa and have been eyeing up the remake on switch and being able to do a little jp practice would be an incentive to pick it up
Jan 29, Sun of Week 5 of Winter Q1 2023
- ใฏใใใ็ดฐ่ Black Vol.5 Ch.31+extra (end volume) + Vol.6 Ch.32
The owner gets hopeless and cry.
- ใใใใใใใฎ
Words of the day
- ใ ใใใ = to feel lazy; to feel languid. Sounds like ๆ ใ changed to a verb, to me.
- ใใใใณใจใผใ = povidone iodine. The latter part, ใจใผใ can be written in Kanji = ๆฒๅบฆ = iodine (ๆฒ็ด ).
- ใฆใใใซใบใฉ = pitcher plant. Full Kanji is ้ซ่.
- ้ญ = a quiver of arrows. Not sure about ใ, but ๅฃบ is a pot.
- ่ (ใใฅใ) = vine; creeper plant
- ๅฐฑใ = to be appointed to work. ไปไบใซๅฐฑใ in context.
- ็ฒใ = to be sticky; to be glutinous. Kanji from Level 47.
- ไธใใ = to take sides with. Has Furigana in context. Of course it sounds like ็ต.
- ๅใพใใ = gallant; in high spirits. ๅใ is in Level 15 = to be in high spirits.
- ๅคงใใใ = crazy; outrageous; extravagant (claims)
- ็ค็ณ = a huge rock; being very stable and firm
- ๆ ๅ = emotion
- ็ฒใ็ฎ = eyestrain; too much eye usage
- ่ง่ = cornea of eye. Probably like horn or epidermis.
- ็ต่ = conjunctiva of eye. Why the Kanji though? Full of vessel networks?
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้ฃๅกฉ = cooking salt
- ็็็้ฃๅกฉๆฐด = normal saline solution, i.e. 0.9% NaCl
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ๅผ็ทฉ = relaxation (of muscle); laxity
- ็ญๅผ็ทฉ = muscle relaxation
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่ชๅพ็ฅ็ต = autonomic nervous system, composing of
- ไบคๆ็ฅ็ต = sympathetic nervous system
- ๅฏไบคๆ็ฅ็ต = parasympathetic
- ไบคๆ is indeed mutual sympathy or rapport, but I am not sure where else the word can be used.
- ๆญๅฃฐ = singing voice
- ้ ช้ ธ = butyric acid (C4 carboxylic acid). First Kanji is from Level 59, dairy (milk product) => ้ ช่พฒ (dairy farming).
- ่บซใใใ = slight movement. ใใใใ is to be gazed at, so people gets uneasy and move a little? Full Kanji is ่บซๅใ.
- ็ด็ซไธๅ = standing upright, at attention
- ไธไบไผใ = There is nothing more that can be done. Third Kanji is just hard to guess reading when thinking as another verb.
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ๆธ
ๆฟไฝตใๅใ = to be broad-minded enough to associate with various types of people. No matter clear, no matter muddy. ไฝตใใ is an alternate form of ๅใใใ.
- Related Yojijukugo is ๆธ ๆฟไฝตๅ.
- ๆ ใ ่ช้ฉ = living comfortably, free from worldly cares
- ๅฐปใซๆทใใใ = to be dominated (usu. by spouse)
SFX
- ใใฏใใฏ = walking at steady pace (longer distance)
Replies
I guess I have the same sentiment. Also, the whole trope and unprogressing story thing.
I am also looking at this, and this thread; but I prefer not to have fantasy elements.
Indeed, I am concerned quite a bit when I canโt read an email properly. Sometimes I feel itโs not really about vocabularies, but rather about getting enough of what is required.
Similarly, I have a concern over manga vs novel, even if I donโt mind reading a few pages of text.
Home post // Jan 29
ใป ๅฐๅฐๅๅบฆ (82% โ 86%)
Hmm, thereโs something about the beginning of the end stage of the books in this series that just makes me want to quickly finish the book so I can read something else. I blame Saikawa. Heโs kinda annoying.
Also reread the epilogue of Honzuki 15 because it has a scene I like a lot. Has been thinking about it lately, so I figured why not read it again :3
January 29
็็ซใฎ่พป, start-7%
I started a new book This one is an impulse buy from my Christmas book shopping spree, based on nothing but cover, summary and a few random reviews. Itโs supposed to be a mystery, but the author has also written horror if I remember correctly, and the first section that I read was definitely the most horror that Iโve read in Japanese so far. While nothing actually happened, the atmosphere had me holding my breath throughout. Curious how it continues. In the part I read, a school boy of indeterminate age dares himself to explore a dark, creepy forest in his neighbourhood. When a neighbour tries to discourage him with a scary story about something that supposedly happened there, he decides to prove to himself that such stories canโt scare him, and he goes exploring againโฆat night.
Day 28
I read some more of Kindaichi Shounen. Iโm surprised that the manga is rather easy I thought a detective manga would be actually hard to read. It seems the manga will be one case per volume.
2310 pages read 17690 to go
January 29th!
I read a chapter of Teasing Master Takagi-san, and also a chapter of Monthly Girlsโ Nozaki-kun.
Iโm enjoying Monthly Girlsโ Nozaki-kun a lot, but I think Iโm going to have to skip the offshoot club if there is one, because I donโt have the bandwidth to keep up with as many clubs as Iโm currently trying to, and with 14 volumes in the series so far its going to be too much of a commitment I thinkโฆ
Yall on here reading some fun ass books but I am not ready for that so I am onto Volume 2 of โJapanese Short Stories for Beginnersโ, which is a graded reader I think at level N4. But if I keep going I predict that I will be able to pick up a BL manga within 6 months after purchasing a new kindle. YOSH!!!
Iโll take you up on that!
I read the second section of ไบ้ญ้ ่ฒจ | L37 and finished the first weekโs reading for ใใฎๆฌใ็ใ่ ใฏ | L46?? (note - it doesnโt start for another week but Iโm reading ahead a bit due to scheduling chaos on my end). 30ish pages in and I think itโs closer to 35 than 46, and maybe even a smidge lower? The difficulty is almost exclusively from vocab, but all the uncommon words get furiganaโd the first time round. In any case, I think the ABC readers will keep up no problem. Iโm enjoying the story and looking forward to reading more.
I also impulse bought ็ๅผพ | L35?? because there was a 40% off coupon for it on Rakuten. I need to stop buying books. I donโt even want to know what my true ็ฉ่ชญ count is, as I know I havenโt been recording books perfectly.
Lost three days to a migraine and lingering headache, so Iโm behind on my manga of the week. I donโt want to push another week out so Iโll plan to finish both volumes next week.
I am so glad I swapped books for Jan and Feb. Iโm reading a book I got probably a decade or more ago โBreaking into Japanese literatureโ which has several short stories from Natume Souseki and Akutagawa Ryuunosuke. I canโt say I care for them much, but whatโs been really interesting is how language has changed since the early 1900s. Words like ใใใใใกใใ, etc used the kanji, and ๅ ฅใ was ้ๅ ฅใ โ Iโd guess that the first characters pronunciation (ใฏ) eventually got absorbed into ๅ ฅ over time, thus ๅ ฅใ vs ๅ ฅใใ pronunciation differences.
The story choices are, uh, interesting for a book geared at introducing people to literature. Several trigger warning apply.
Other than that, Persona 3 released on PC and Iโve been playing the female route in Japanese. sadly the quick save feature doesnโt work in the middle of dialogue, only in the overworld.
Curious what those are - feel free to put behind a spoiler or toggle of course! I donโt know Souseki to be very problematic (by reputation, only read one thing by him) but Akutagawa isโฆinteresting. I canโt say I enjoy his writing at all, but I donโt avoid it entirely like Yumeno (another classic author).
Yeah itโs mainly Akutagawa. Iโm finishing up โin a groveโ and itโs got rape, murder, and attempted suicide.
Souseki read more like Edgar Allan Poe, which does still have sensitive content ( depression, suicide) but somehow feels lessโฆdirect I guess?
Edit: should add at least in โin a groveโ the rape is not explicitly described, just stated to have occurred. I just find the choice of content to be an odd choice to introduce people to Japanese literature.