Onyomi/Kunyomi Errors

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I totally get this. I wish at least for the kanji readings section, they would tell you up front whether they wanted the onyomi or kunyomi reading. I’ve input an onyomi before and it was looking for the kunyomi reading AND vice versa. The vocabulary section seems to want only kunyomi readings, but the kanji readings section is inconsistent.

Example: 犬

In the vocabulary section, I know it’s いぬ. In the kanji section, where you’re normally expected to input the onyomi, wanikani wants the kunyomi and not the onyomi reading けん, which you aren’t taught in the lessons (at least for the first 3 levels; dunno if this kanji is revisited with the onyomi later). This bugs me.

This whole ordeal could be solved if there were some flag or asterisk that says おん or くん on the slides/cards, so you’d know which one you’re supposed to input.

edit: I don’t think changing screen background colors would solve the problem; there are color blind people out there.

It depends on the word. It can be either.

Only one word on WaniKani with the reading けん is taught, and it’s in level 52 (along with the kanji 猟, hunting, for 猟犬, hunting dog.) In the meantime, 5 other words that use いぬ are taught.

Teaching けん and then having it not appear for so long would be frustrating to other people, even if it would solve what you see as a problem.

What exactly is the ordeal though? The kanji items will just shake to let you know to input the other one, and you’re not marked wrong.

If you meant telling you “onyomi” or “kunyomi” on vocab cards… that’s giving you a hint, which they never do anywhere else.

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I completely agree with this. Since I know some Japanese already, I’m mostly familiar with the kun-yomi. But, I’m struggling with the onyomi.

It would be great to have a second chance since I usually think of the kunyomi first (since I already know the meaning of words as vocabulary.

The on-yomi is just more unnoticable. So, when I go on to learn kun-yomi on Wanikani, I’m still very much still trying to learn the onyomi as a new thing, but which later on isn’t a wanted answer. So, I’d also love to have a second chance - perhaps marked differently from when you do mistakes for the onyomi questions, since it’s more wrong, but it would still be a good thing to be given a chance to correct to the right reading.

Full disclosure: I’m completely self-taught, so this is one of the issues that arise from that - I never learnt the foundations, but still know tons of Japanese words by now and truly do understand Japanese, especially trough hearing. I also talk Japanese fine. Reading and writing is it’s own issue.

So this is about a pedagogical problem as I see it: how to teach grown-ups how to read/write Japanese, when they may already know some or a lot of Japanese? How to connect the dots between what you already know, and make it more grounded in theory/grammar etc?

That’s why I think this option of not faulting an on-yomi-reading when asking for a kun-yomi, makes sense. It’s about struggling to separate readings-as-such from the word itself and learning both are possible ways of seeing the same word - and learning that the two are connected.

(you might even have encountered the reading in vocabulary you know, but didn’t understand the connection to the kanji).

It sounds like the terminology “kanji reading, vocab reading, on’yomi, kun’yomi” etc is not completely understood. I wouldn’t personally bother with trying to memorise which is the kun/on’yomi. Just learn how words are read and how kanji can be read.

kanji review = what are the possible ways to read this? If it shakes you are correct but there are more correct options so let’s keep looking for the desired option. This is not a word and doesn’t hold a specific meaning. It’s a letter.

vocab review = how do you say this word?

Which is Kun/On’yomi will sort itself out naturally in your brain as you come across more words. I don’t know if the issue has been resolved or if it’s still unclear to some.

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No, the vocab section is asking for the reading of the kanji(s) as a word. Only you have, mistakenly, assumed that always means only kunyomi.

It already does. Your wish is already a feature.

I’ve had this happen a few times as well (鏡 gave me trouble with this just the other day). Its a little frustrating when you already know the onyomi but WK doesn’t teach it and thus only accepts the kunyomi as the kanji’s reading.

but kanji like that are few and far between, and no more than 1 in every other level (in my experience).

If it helps, kunyomi is usually used if the vocab is made up of a stand-alone kanji or a single kanji followed by hiragana
Onyomi is usually used for vocab made up of multiple kanji, but there are loads of exceptions (and the mnemonics will mention that)

you can download the ignore script to give yourself a second chance!

Well, except for する verbs and variants like ずる and じる. For example, 信じる.

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exceptions exceptions :pensive:
(edited my post)

i-it can’t? O_o

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NO! :rage:
I’m not even from chicago what am I doing

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If that’s how you want the program to work for you, get the Override script and mark yourself correct. It only affects your own learning.

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