[Now Voting!] Beginner Japanese Book Club // Now Reading: 骨ドラゴンのマナ娘

It’s more that I’m pretty sure I won’t actually end up reading the book if I vote for it, so I don’t want to weigh in and add to the tie mess already in progress :sweat_smile:

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I’m inviting you to weigh in. In fact, I insist on it. Pay no attention to the fact that I nominated it. :stuck_out_tongue:

Ties aren’t a mess, since the book clubs decided on the whole to do away with tie breakers or joint winners in favour of just having the oldest nomination automatically win ties.

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Please vote for it!! That club is going to be so much fun!

Oh wait, you already did. Yay!

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The suspense is killing me!

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I stealth voted for it :joy:

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For anyone interested in ひらやすみ and nothing else, the first three volumes are free to read for the next week.

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Ok, so the vote is a tie between ヤマノススメ and 午後のあくび

Per the way we’ve done it for the club before, a 2-way tie would mean both books get run sequentially, with a runoff poll to decide the order. I see there’s a lot of demand to copy the rule change some other clubs recently did to make ties just an oldest club wins. ヤマノススメ is the older nomination of the two drawn books.

I was a bit loath to unilaterally change rules during a voting session which is why I hadn’t commented on it during the process, kind of hoping we wouldn’t get a draw and could decide it afterwards, but we did, so, I’m going to post 3 polls in this thread.

Question 1:

Should we adopt the “oldest book wins” tiebreaker rule of the other clubs.
  • Yes
  • No
0 voters

Question 2a:

If the tiebreaker rule change passes, should we grandfather in 午后のあくび and have it read as the next book following ヤマノススメ anyway?
  • Yes
  • No
0 voters

Question 2b:

If the tiebreaker rule change does not pass, which would you rather read first?
  • 午后のあくび
  • ヤマノススメ
0 voters

In other news, 雪女 has gotten 8%, 12% and 5% in the last 3 polls, so is eliminated.

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Well done. Negotiating these situations is the hardest part of running one of these clubs. When to make a unilateral decision. When to poll. How to poll! I think you’ve managed this one very well with that post.

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Oh my goodness yay! Thank you for the heads up!!

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I have never seen a more unanimous poll.

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No kidding, I’m a little surprised at the responses for the grandfathering question though. Seems a bit unfair to me to not read Afternoon Yawnings as it technically was chosen as a book to read according to the rules at the time of vote. Poll don’t lie though lol

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Yeah that was my dilemma too. I voted with the assumption that we would automatically adopt the new tiebreaker rule, but since we haven’t, I can understand why Afternoon Yawning should be held to the rules in place at the time the vote ended. But since I already voiced my support for the tiebreaker rule, I’d feel dishonest if I changed my mind. Also since I voted for Afternoon Yawning but not ヤマノススメ, I need to make sure I’m not being biased.

I’ll be happy with either outcome. I think at this point people are just sick of ties.

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If people want to read it it’ll win next time anyway.

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Ok, the votes are over:

  1. We’ll adopt the “oldest wins” tiebreaker
  2. We won’t grandfather in 午后あくび. I don’t feel great about such a slim majority but it does include a good chunk of people who voted for it in the original poll.
  3. That means the next book is ヤマノススメ
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Just me not knowing what this means? :caught_durtling:

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no but I was too afraid to ask in case it was just me

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Simple words at first glance, turns out it’s actually N1 level English. Is the feeling I’m getting :laughing:

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“grandfather in” means that when you change a rule, you allow someone who was using the old rule to continue using it. (Usually for a limited time or with conditions)

So in this case, the old rule was that ties lead to both nominations being read in a row, and Afternoon Yawning would be read next. To grandfather it in would mean allowing it to fall under the old rule (and be read next) out of consideration for it technically being the second winner when the rule was still active, but after that we wouldn’t allow anything else to use the old rule.

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Aha, makes sense. Thanks for the explanation! 分かりやすい

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My feeling is that even tho we didn’t agree on the rule beforehand, everyone assumed it was in place anyway.

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