Not really practical japanese

Wanikani’s focus is Kanji, and strong points are probably structure and simplification.

It’s all free to study more vocabularies outside Wanikani, using Kanji from Wanikani. After all, vocabularies in Wanikani need to have all former level Kanji, not just one of the them.

The number of Kanji known, indeed, has to go up from somewhere.

By knowing a lot of the language, I hope it already open the door to many more learning opportunities; not strictly tied to knowing all the Kanji’s of each vocabulary.

Any learning platform is only as practical as the use you make of it :man_shrugging:t2:

Practicality isn’t always the most important goal for all people, it’s worth mentioning. I’ve learned several languages to various levels of competency because it’s fun and interesting to do so. To each their own in terms of motivation.

You can rely on it for learning Kanji, certainly, and an amount of supportive vocab, but as many people have pointed out; it’s just one resource in your toolkit.

Ayy thanks man, i am overwhelmed in the first few months of wanikani and i just talked with japanese friend of mine…

note: I made a slight error, i ment weather the higher levels of wanikani were practical use of japanese not one’s on effort. I hope you understand what im trying to convey here :slight_smile:

My friend said level 60 (i know is a bit far from reach XD) that it is certainly not practicle for japanese.

I will still learn what wanikani levels but its just weather its gonna conflict with my studys. i dont wanna learn something im not gonna use

so your learning languages right? Some words you pick up might not be practicle and so you wont need to learn it though, Only keeping certain words in mind.

Let me know if you understanmd this im autishic so i find that i make wierd sentences, i appologize

Yeah, that’s always going to be the case regardless of what language you learn and now, honestly. Hell, the same thing is true of English - we come across words in books we don’t know, so we look them up, then we forget them. The only way we maintain our vocabulary is through repetition and exposure.

I mean, so am I, so no worries :sweat_smile:

Honestly, this is a tough question for anyone to answer. I don’t want to come across as callous.

It really depends on what your goals are with Japanese whether getting to level 60 is practical or not. You may get to level 35, do your N2 exam and find WK has satisfied you and you go on your merry way. You can read everything you want, and the time spent on here could be used elsewhere.

You may also get to level 35 and realise you want to get all the kanji WK offers you because find the system conducive to good learning.

Is all the kanji practical? I don’t know, there will be some kanji you learn you’ll use everyday. Others, you may only see once again in 10 years.

Ultimately though, the Japanese Government publish a list of essential kanji that all Japanese speakers are expected to know by the time they leave school. WK teaches nearly all of these.

I trust the Japanese government to understand their language better than me, and I trust that all these kanji are practical and are required for a base level fluency in the language.

Sure, WK will teach a few kanji outside this list but they’re a drop in the ocean compared to learning the Joyo kanji.

Obviously there’s a lot more to Japanese than kanji but learning them gets you a massive way to fully understanding and using the language.

That’s practical to me.

I wouldn’t take seriously people when they says things half assed and dont clarify what they mean, honestly.

OP is already level 10, it’s a point you already have an idea what this WK SRS tool does.

At lvl 10 I started reading nhk easy news and realized I could understand a lot of things already and felt I had great accomplishments at that point to motivate me to continue.

that will come in handy for my goals and future which may be going over 35 if im convinced that i need it :wink:

solid stuff! thanks

Alright ill check this information out once i have time, thanks for sharing with me

solid stuff thanks

Maybe I just don’t know what everyday frequency is like because I’m not Japanese and don’t live in Japan, but…

  • 勇 is very important if it hasn’t already been learnt at lower levels
  • 煩 appears in わずらわしい, and while that might not be extremely common, it certainly isn’t that rare (along with the source verb for that adjective, わずらう, which can be written as 煩う or 患う – I’ve heard it in an anime)
  • 蛮 is in 南蛮, which is a very common (and delicious!) sort of karaage chicken. Good luck to anyone trying to recognise that on a mainly-kanji Japanese menu… if they haven’t learnt it, that is
  • 某 isn’t that common in Japanese, but it’s important to know if you’re reading fairly formal stuff where ‘a certain (but unspecified)’ thing is mentioned
  • 痢 from 下痢… I don’t really know if you need to know this kanji, but it’s definitely a common illness/symptom, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s common
  • 狐 – foxes are everywhere in fantasy fiction, and at the very least, wouldn’t it be nice to know the kanji for a common animal? Yes, OK, you’ll probably see キツネ or きつね as often/more often, but if it’s so common, why not learn it? (By the way, きつねうどん – a sort of udon noodle dish – is a thing.)
  • I’m pretty sure I’ve seen 漸漸 (やくやく or ぜんぜん)=‘gradually’ in a story or article at some point. (It’s ridiculously common in Chinese at any rate.)
  • 升 – I wouldn’t be surprised if this comes up as a measurement in a period drama/anime or in some sort of traditional cooking context
  • 婿 – absolutely no way you don’t need the male counterpart of 嫁, especially with all the marriage-related humour and references in fiction (e.g. 婿入り – the act of a man marrying into a woman’s family).
  • 匿 is in 匿名=‘anonymous’. You can’t miss this on online forums in Japanese.
  • 謹 probably isn’t that common, but you can find it in stuff like 謹慎, which refers to behaving prudently
  • 藍 appears in a Japanese/Chinese proverb: 青は藍より出でて藍より青し – ‘blue comes out of indigo and is bluer than indigo’. ‘The student surpasses the master’, essentially.
  • 殉 appears in stuff like 殉国 (dying for one’s country). Anything involving historical heroics/ideals of patriotism will probably use this at some point
  • 坑 – you’re kidding, right? Among other things, this appears over and over in Minecraft as 廃坑, which is the translation for ‘abandoned mineshaft’
  • 妄 – you’re not going to convince me 妄想 (delusions, fantasies) is not a common word
  • 藻 from 海藻 (seaweed) – you’re probably going to want to know this in the supermarket. I mean, nori could have just been written as のり, but no, packaging usually says 海苔 instead
  • 泌 – I guarantee you will need this for anything medical involving secretions
  • 唄 – 子守り唄 = ‘lullaby’. It’s not rare.
  • 醜 – you’ll find this in 醜い, which is very logically み + にくい i.e. ‘hard to look at’… except that the kanji is that. The word itself is really common, but not knowing the kanji means you’ll won’t recognise it in text (especially in novels, where kanji are used a lot to save space).
  • 冥, like in 冥界=‘underworld’. If you frequently read stuff in the fantasy genre, you’ll probably need to know this. It appears in the Fate series, for example, in the Fate: Grand Order instalment.
  • 湧 – く=‘to gush forth’ isn’t exactly rare, you know? And if you’re a Japanese Minecraft player, you’ll know this word is used to mean ‘spawn’, as in the word つぶし=‘spawn-proofing/preventing spawning’
  • 慕 – 慕う=‘to yearn for, to admire, to adore’. Pretty sure this comes up in tons of places where love or admiration is involved, especially songs, possibly alongside 憧れ=‘admiration’

The kanji I haven’t mentioned are ones I either don’t know myself or have rarely seen in Japanese, but the short of it is… if you don’t have much to read, then no, none of this is practical. However, if you ever want to tackle anything even vaguely technical or literary (think science books, newspapers or novels), then you’ll need to learn most of these at some point. You probably won’t need them much in conversational Japanese alone, but if you want to be able to engage with the full spectrum of things Japanese people consume and discuss, you need many of these kanji.

This exactly the type of answer i was looking for, thank you so much :slight_smile:

No problem! You’re very welcome. :slight_smile: Sorry I didn’t put in the readings on every single word, but I certainly hope the day will come when you’ll learn all of these :grin: All the best! :muscle:

It is. Only the radical is at level 60, the Kanji itself is at level 15.

I see. That’s great.

Sudden thought: does it appear as part of any kanji other than 湧? :thinking:

thank you :slight_smile:

You know you can look this up on WK just as well as I do, right? :smile:

It appears to be used as part of 湧

:eyes:

Oh silly me, I thought the question was whether it appears in any Kanji besides 勇. Guess I need to polish my glasses.

I didn’t realise that radical pages existed. (This is what happens when you only use the forums and not the SRS. :sweat_smile:) But thanks a lot!

I went searching and found a few other possibilities:

I had no idea of what any of those meant other than 踴, which seems to be another form of 踊.

Still, suffice to say they’re pretty rare.