For me it’s not a matter of keeping going as much as it is a worry about finally being “finished”. Japanese has been part of my life for so many years that I think sometimes about where I’ll be with it in the next 5-10 years. Will I still have much stuff left to learn? It’s weird to think of a time where I won’t be learning Japanese, y’know?
Ahhh okay, now I get it xD Yeah, no, I don’t think I will ever stop learning in that sense. Like sure, it’s not gonna be as much as it was in the beginning, which is why I said those things to not scare people away - it will get easier xD
But at the same time, I’m learning things constantly even about Russian. My vocab is twice as small as my mom’s, for example, not to mention etymology which I absolutely adore, old Russian and a whole lot of classics and poems which all use the language in their own way. English is even more apparent to me, I think I know around 12k words?, which is not enough xD I encounter unknown words all the time, even on WK, which shows how much I have to learn. The grammar is also something I need to invest in more (those conditionals ), punctuation is very different from Russian, so I make a lot of mistakes probably xD Old English, classics, same things, there’s endless content to learn.
Learning a language is more about learning culture for me, and it’s impossible to stop there if your goal is to learn as much as there is. It’s history, it’s how people think in that language. There’re so many things that are not translatable, that it’s hard to imagine a point where it can “end” if your goal is not just to be able to talk to a shopkeeper, which is fine to have, but it’s different:)
also I just now had to read about the difference between at and in the beginning xD
Oh oh oh! I remembered now (doing my reviews ) that I didn’t mention jitai at all. I’ve been using it for a couple of months now and I feel like my ability to understand mangaka’s handwriting is so much better now xDD
I’ve been using Armed banana and KouzanBrushFontGyousyo (not Sousyo! That one is impossible ) I do hover over the text quite often to see the heck it is, but it’s getting rarer and rarer /o/
Examples for anyone interested and who wants to try to guess!
This is Sousyo, for example, it's absolutely impossible, but fun nevertheless?:DD
さすが Flamy だ。おめでとう。
Уж кого-кого, а русского я здесь увидеть не ожидал.Я, конечно, видел что тут есть кто-то из земляков, но обычно они сливаются с английским комьюнити настолько, что и не отличишь.Я сам начал заниматься полгода назад и только приступил к чтению и когда-нибудь надеюсь достичь твоего уровня) Впрочем, всему свое время, тут у меня и универ висит на душе…В общем, надеюсь, что этот путь дойду до конца и смогу как-то связать свою жизнь с Японией, поскольку задумываясь об этом, она имела сильное влияние на мою личность, хотя мне все еще претит их чрезмерная праведность в литературе(а может и в жизни, еще не знаю) и временами отсутствия здорового цинизма.
А как ты начал учить?Просто из-за аниме?
Русские тут встречаются порой, я видела как минимум человек пять, мы просто скрываемся, полагаю
Я где-то в классе седьмом увлеклась аниме, как и многие в том возрасте. У меня всегда цель была выучить кучу языков, а тут японский попался, exposure и все такое xD Потом к этому добавились JRPG, манга и ужас ожидания перевода с японского хотя бы на английский, чего могло и не произойти даже D: Я смотрю на тебя, Ace Attorney. Как-то так оно и пошло xD
Удачи c изучением! WaniKani чудный ресурс, который имеет прекрасное комьюнити, тут все дороги открываются)
Нечаева’s texbook has spoiled an initial learning experience for me too (ノ｀⌒´)ノ┻┻
It’s hard enough to understand Russian grammar by itself let alone to explain Japanese grammar through it.
And thank you for such useful recommendations!
Congratulations, fellow виниканиевец!!! お疲れ様でした！
I just hit level 20, and WK sent me an email and said I should read. I bought a book back in December for a book club but didn’t stick with it. The threads are still out there though, so I’m wondering if I can just follow along with those for now.
Two lessons a day in Bunpro is really good advice. I’m buried in reviews there right now because I added far too many. I haven’t moved forward in grammar study in months. Previously I had finished Genki II in a classroom setting and I bought a copy of Tobira.
I got here because WK emailed me a community summary. They really are persistent, which I appreciate. Thank you for your inspiring post.
You for sure can! Also, people are still here, so your questions will be answered pretty quickly. Right now there’s a reread of Kiki if you feel better reading with a group of people^^
One other thing you can do is change the settings for ghost reviews to minimal instead of on. That helped me to get through 200+ review pile, when I felt like I would cheat to not get a ghost review. Now I have it enabled again because I don’t get more than 30-40 a day even with it
Good luck with your studies, I’m glad my post inspired you and I hope it helped a little
That’s a really awesome journey, as in “awe inspiring”, not just cool, but terrifying and wonderful. Thank you for sharing!
Edit: Oh and congratulations
It did help! The 20 lessons a day thing is interesting. I tend to do all of my lessons when I unlock them and then get a chunk of those reviews wrong. Then I got swamped in reviews and burned out!
I did the same thing xD I do recommend jp’s guide, it’s basically everything you would need to know about WK, that’s why I didn’t talk about it much at all xD
I barely started but this kind of posts (and obviously my own motives to learn japanese) give me hope to reach level 60 one day.
You made it! Enjoy everything who comes with a languange knowledge
Thanks again for the advice. I reset them and then set them to minimal just to help with the burden.
nice work!!! thank you for sharing this story of burnout and then triumph. it’s super motivating. and thank you for sharing all those links to tools that have helped you! i’d like to give them all a shot. i haven’t started learning grammar yet but i figure i’d better start sooner rather than later, or all those items i’ve burned will eventually unburn themselves in my mind. like you, i want a language to last a lifetime. good luck on N1!!! keep us posted about that!
You really boost my will to hit N2/N1, thanks for your thread and advice.
Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations!
This 60 lvl posts are huge contribution to our common success - it helps us to realize it’s actually possible to get there!
Good luck on JLPT!
P.S.: Nechaeva’s book had made my eyes bleed as well. Even Minna no Nihongo, which is written entirely in Japanese, is simplier for understanding than her explanations.
Thanks for sharing your journey dude, I just (barely) passed N4 earlier this year and have been looking at how I can improve my study technique and using N3 as a bit of a goalpost. I was heading over for a study / working holiday tour in July, but doesn’t seem so likely now!
My partner also bought me Tobirama for my birthday (although she got me the Grammar one only…), after reading your post and given I’m not under the same hurry for N3 that I was for N4 I think I’ll stick with that, and maybe flip to Kanzen master closer come exam time.
I’ve learned about Bunpro and Kitsun from your post and they both close big gaps I’ve had in my approach. The last is probably actual conversing with Japanese people, I’m thinking about trying a few people on italki, although my conversational ability is trash.
My only question now is how to juggle WK, Kitstune and Bunpro in a nice daily routine on top of everything else in life!
So yeah just wanted to say thanks, you obviously spent a lot of time writing this and it has been helpful
And well done on your own journey smashing everything out, that’s amazing progress in a very short amount of time! Good luck with N1!