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!! That’s super invigorating =O I hope to be at that point sometime this year…

Just putting it out there, whoever came up with the conjugations for the passive-form, causative-form and causative-passive-form was a monster :sob:
Actually, put the potential-form in there too because it overlaps with the passive-form :worried:

I think you should write a strongly worded e-mail to the powers that be!

I still can’t figure these out and I refuse to spend more time trying xD I’m just going to wing like I did/still am doing with katakana(シツンノソ) and just hope it sticks at some point.

Which script is this? :smiley:

Enjoy :slight_smile:

It’s so much fun! Are you thinking about taking italki lessons this year?

Been pretty sick today and while I’ve just barely got through WK and Torii reviews I can’t say my accuracy has been up to much due to my brain being mush. I know 11 is meant to be the first painful level but didn’t think it would be this literal lol :disappointed: still, I figure it’s better to at least get them done rather that leaving them to pile up to an intimidating number! Wish me luck! :crossed_fingers:

Aww, that sucks to be sick! Keep it up as much as you can and I doubt you’ll regret doing it even if the accuracy suffers. Doing the opposite and just coming back after you feel better sounds like a recipe for demotivation and overwhelm.


Other note, first master items for me today! Woohoo! May every last one move straight up to enlightened in a month!

I felt a big difference in lv 11, not so much in WK, but a LOT in KW. There are a lot of vocabs with 4+ kanjis and hiraganas mixed, so its way harder to remember…
I have 100+ reviews on KaniWani, and im too afraid to take those yet, i need to study the vocabs a lot more!! The kanjis were pretty OK though…

How do you guys feel about WaniKani teaching new vocab that isn’t really new vocab? :thinking:
Sometimes I wish WaniKani didn’t make me do conjugation practice :see_no_evil:

For example, I get that 泳ぐ泳ぎ doesn’t work with every verb, but I can’t help but think that these wouldn’t surprise me if I saw them in the wild :D
And WaniKani quizzes you on so many of these :see_no_evil: Certainly is still less time than I spend on the forums, but you know… efficiency.

Side note: I did not do this solely as a rant, but I remembered that it took me quite a while to figure these out because non of my beginner textbooks explained them :see_no_evil:
So just in case you didn’t know either, here’s some more:
外れる外れ
休む休み
考える考え
答える答え
楽しむ楽しみ
当たる当たり
生まれる生まれ
And that’s just a few from the early levels :scream:

Hope you get better soon :3

Actually, my breakthrough with those was when a native told me to pay attention to the stroke order.

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With shi, each line is drawn from left → right
With tsu, each line is drawn from top → bottom

Personally, this really helped me with telling them apart, I didnt even pay attention to how the longer lines are different :see_no_evil:
シツ

… was still a pain to remember which is which though :see_no_evil:

I am actually alright with those, because at least they are actually different words (noun vs verb). However, I have recently had lessons that are literally the same word with a particle attached - namely 別 and 別の. They also teach 別に but at least that one is a little different…

And then there is stuff like 大きい and 大きく which is the same word just conjugated :upside_down_face: It definitely baffles me as to why they do it this way

betsuni

b-b-b-betsuni!!

Added myself to the list! I was going full pace until the end of year holidays hit, so I’m hoping a little healthy competition will motivate me to get back into the groove ^^

Mmh, are they though? For me, 泳ぐ → 泳ぎ is more like a conjugation too. It’s just the masu-stem after all :scream:
You even use the masu-stem as a noun in multiple grammar points, e.g. [verb-stem + に行く].
買いに行く is just “to go shopping”, which makes so much sense :see_no_evil:

(What I was trying to say is masu-stem = noun is a pretty general rule :see_no_evil: )

Right? 大きい → 大きさ is also really weird, because by the time you learn it you probably don’t even know the conjugation rule. At least they briefly mention it :see_no_evil:

I guess my brain just doesn’t interpret them that way :thinking: I can totally see how it’s pretty much just a conjugation, but I think because in my native language there are also a bunch of similar verbs + nouns but they are treated as completely different I kinda see the japanese ones the same way :see_no_evil:

Ooh, interesting! Again, my brain still saw that as a verb (買いに行く → to go shop/to go buy stuff) so for me the rule seemed more like a “to go do an action”. I’m going to have to go look at this again now :smile:

Happened to me once as well! Super frustrating. Once you add everyone, download the leaderboard (arrow in the top left). If it happens again, you can just upload the leaderboard and save yourself all the trouble

Good luck burning reviews!

The variations still mess me up when reviewing them till now. Some days, I just accept my fate

@sycamore How are you feeling?! I hope better!

That leaderboard is turning very pink, everyones slowly making it to the painfuls 1x

We could probably upload a csv-file that has everyone in there to google files so new people can just download and import it :thinking: