Random math incoming!
The amount of lessons you do per day * 10 roughly equals the amount of reviews you’ll have to do per day. 15 lessons/day → 150 reviews/day
To move from from Lvl 10 → Lvl 20 with a speed of 10 days/level, you’ll need to do 16.56 lessons/day.
In the long run, that means about 165 reviews per day.
I’ve actually been doing 2 weeks per level from the beginning. I use reorder the opposite way and completely finish one level with vocab included before moving on to the next levels kanji and radicals. I have been considering speeding up a tad bit though from my 14 ~ 15 day levels, my apprentice are usually around the 80’s.
I probably should have gone faster since I’m still at a point where I know most of the kanji being taught from studying beforehand. I try to make sure I do a bit of my textbook and bookclub reading every day as well though.
Interesting…
That pretty much checks out with my experience - I generally do 20 lessons a day but given by 100 apprentice cap it’s sometimes less. 165 reviews a day is pretty fine and around what I’ve been getting.
And oh cool! Do you find that this leaves you with no lessons on some days? (As you wait for kanji to guru and unlock more vocab) I think if it’s a pace that works for you and lets you do more other study then that’s all good! We all have differing learning priorities and motivations so each have to find what works for us
I expect that I may well end up slowing down further in the future.
Yeah I definitely have periods where I don’t have any lessons I can do. I generally just do them all when they show up haha. I think my main worry has been getting overwhelmed later on and quitting because of that. I’ve got plenty of time for it now while working from home due to corona and saving all those hours on commuting, but my fear is having built up a huge pile and not being able to manage it once I go back to working normally.
All them people doing lessons whenever they’re available… ![]()
I’m such a creature of habit, I just can’t :'D
A set amount of new lessons every morning, review newly learned items around noon, do old reviews in the evening. Every day is the same ![]()
It’s so funny you say that, because for me I feel like my way is super structured and that some things are just a habit thing I prefer not to break xD Such as finishing a level completely before moving on and having set waves of kanji/radicles and vocab. For me the other way seems chaotic and disordered ![]()
I seem to have an approach somewhere in the middle of you two’s
I have a set amount of lessons I do every day (14 atm), but not a set time. I will just do them whenever I feel like it during the day (or right before bed if I’ve procrastinated). Sometimes I will split them up too, so I’ll do half first and then the other half a few hours later. I do reviews pretty much as they come up though.
I am finding that I am doing lessons on the new level until I push through the radicals and then I stop until I level up the radicals to guru. This gives me time to work on the backlog of reviews from the previous level while still making progress on the new one. The subsequent kanji seem easier to memorize for me because the radicals used in the mnemonics are more present and familiar. Since I am prioritizing the radicals, the kanji is easier. Since the kanji is easier, the jukugo vocabulary meanings and readings are even easier. Feels like a snowball effect, although I do think leveling up will take a little longer, but the result is that there are some days when I only have 40 or 50 reviews.
At the very beginning of my WK journey, I didn’t realize that getting to lvl 25 or so gives you a fair amount of common kanji knowledge, enough to effectively start tackling some native material in earnest, assuming you’re also keeping up with vocabulary and grammar studies. Lvl 60 and burning all items is still a goal, but I no longer feel like I can’t be enjoying the language fully before then.
Slowing the pace is totally fine imo. I see a lot of the people who finish WK so quickly have pretty low accuracy rates, and making mistakes is important, but not at the expense of consistently getting words wrong, it starts to look more like brute force memorization when that happens.
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Good for you @GrumpyPanda. I am so bad at this haha, I tried doing it but I am usually so bored during the day I kind of wait for the top of each hour and just do the reviews lol. I need more self control to space it out a little better!
More power to you. Definitely, let us know how it’s going… I’m curious what challenges you’ll encounter;)
I can’t handle this pressure… ![]()
Next big challenge isn’t going to be J⟷J but surviving exam phase. This is usually when I drop Japanese because the workload is too much ![]()
First painful lvl done
- Just reached lvl 12.
11 Wasn’t bad at all actually. Though it is the first level where I haven’t finished all lessons that were available to me before the lvl up. Not because they were any harder, but holidays and stuff^^
124 Lessons now on 12…not too bad.
Probably gonna do 12 a little slower and finish those vocab lessons from lvl 11 first before doing new kanji.
Hope you all will join the pain soon! ![]()
You’ve got this! ![]()
@Faolon I am excited to join the ranks of the Painful soon! Congrats on getting there and making it through the first level!
I should probably slow down WK even more, going “too slow” for a couple of weeks would still be better than having to stop entirely and risking not picking it up again. But when I’m going so slow that and any sense of progress disappears, I lose all motivation… ![]()
Someone convince me to slow down to 16 days/level while I’m prepping for exams pls ![]()
Just saw this ![]()
Usually I do all Radicals as soon as I have them available.
On the same day I also do 5 of the new kanji.
Next day is vocab day…I don’t know how much lessons I do honestly.
As much as I enjoy? xD Somestimes if the vocab is easy I do quite a lot.
The next two days I finish the rest of the first batch of kanji mixed with some vocab.
Second Batch of Kanji as soon as they become availabe, no vocab on that day.
The rest of the time I finish vocab - usually I have all available lessons done by day 7.
(Except for 11, see my last post)
Apprentice at the beginning of a lvl reaches 130-150.
But there are still ~15 radicals which review quick so I don’t mind those.
I also don’t have a set time for reviews, but use every little downtime I have I do some reviews.
Waiting for the water to boil while cooking? Reviews
Morning Coffee - Reviews
Lunch break - Reviews
(Also toilets are a great place to get your reviewcount down…don’t judge me…)
@trombonekun91
Thanks! Excited to see you all getting there! ![]()
Hmm, I think if you can change your mindset during your exam phase to “engaging with the language daily at any level” it will be helpful. If that means zeroing out your reviews every day and nothing else, that’s okay! I am doing the same thing. I only feel really bad if I don’t do something related to Japanese on any given day, and I haven’t done that (yet), but there have been some days where I have only engaged with WK, or only worked through Genki, or spent too much time on the forums.
No reason to burn out on it.
If you have to slow down to feel comfortable - do it.
9 lvls is already a big achievement!
I mean you have basically 1/6 of the way already done and it’s a marathon not a sprint after all.
Manage your energy so you can make it all the way ![]()
I reserve my right to judge unequivocally and without reservation lol just kidding. I do have some issues sometimes feeling like I need a perfect set up to study. I’m getting better at just doing it and getting started because I know I will be totally engaged but I just need to do it! It was the same way in school when I needed to practice for a recital. The struggle never ends lol
I like your approach! Getting those radicals down, then drilling the kanji and then the vocabulary comes easier.
EDIT: My motivation and focus has been pretty bad for the last few days because my country is figuratively burning to the ground and I can’t keep my eyes off the news. :'D
I am definitely the same here - I guess it’s just finding that middle ground where it’s sustainable but also you see enough progression to stay motivated. @trombonekun91 's advice to just do something every day is a good one I think, although I think if I counted being on the forums too much that would be a slippery slope haha!
And thanks for sharing your process @Faolon!
I also can be like this with vocab! It’s very tempting to just do a little bit more when you’re enjoying it
I also do reviews in small amounts just whenever I have time - I find that my accuracy really drops of I work through a big pile as I tend to rush through them.
Eep yeah that can’t make things easy! I despair enough here with Brexit but the scenes from the US yesterday were so shocking to see!
Oh! Whoops lol I just read my post back and I didn’t mean to include that as a positive lol. I mean, you can learn things from the forums for sure, and I do love the discussion, but studying is definitely better haha.