KnightsMercy's Study Journal

Hello world,

I’d like to record my journey in learning Japanese in this thread. I came to WaniKani with just a few months of study, and maintain a (rough and loose) daily practice schedule that I try to maintain, with no more than a day break where required. I may not record all of my daily practice here, but hopefully the records I do make here are useful for myself in retrospect, and for others that may one day follow in my own footsteps.

For the time, here is my workload.

Daily:

  • 20 WaniKani lessons, with all daily reviews as needed. I will need to review this load later on to see if I need to adjust this up or down.
  • Wagotabi reviews, plus at least one “lesson.” I may put this on the back burner for a little bit while I adjust to WaniKani, but at a minimum I hope to maintain the reviews and continue to use it for interactive grammar practice.

A few times a week:

  • Imabi lessons and review. I usually do these in my off-time during my day job while taking notes on the subject the lesson is conveying.
  • Journaling and documenting. At least a few times a week, I should update this thread and do any personal journaling I was to do.

To that end:

Today I did 20 WaniKani lessons, and have completed almost all of the reviews. I have 34 left over the next 2 hours. I’ll close those out before bed. I also did about 30 minutes of Wagotabi and got to Kurashiki. Finally, I drew a couple of kanji several times in a book I got specifically for practice.

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Welcome :slight_smile: and good luck with your studies.

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Day 6

Level 2, Day 2

I have performed the awakening rituals and done a number of lessons already this morning. Sadly I am now out of coffee so that won’t I will have to get more.

Something I’m considering is shifting my schedule a few hours earlier. I had made a bad habit of starting lessons in the last half of the hour, and by the end of them I found that several had completed after the turn. This means I have several non-Guru’d items at 10 to 11 pm, which is a bit late. It’ll take some time, but I’d like to shift everything to 9 or 8 pm instead.

Feeling pretty good about my pacing so far. I have the time to keep on top of it for now, but I’m sure I’ll have a better idea of it after a few more levels.

WaniKani

So far this day:

  • 16 radicals to begin Guru-ing them (I should guru several others I started yesterday tonight)
  • 2 kanji, since I did a bunch of radicals
  • 3 vocab, to round out that 20~ish total goal

Wagotabi

  • I made some progress, learned a few words related to weather such as 降る and 吹く.
  • I’m having issues remembering frequency words (いつも、よく) that aren’t 時々, and how to use について properly.
  • I should also probably review conjugations in the near future.
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Welcome!

I should probably get back to wagotabi, it’s a fun little game but I haven’t gotten terribly far yet. Seeing some of the things you mentioned in here is definitely a good reason to do it, too. :slight_smile:

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Welcome to WaniKani :slight_smile:

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Day 7

Another productive day. I’m only level 2 so there’s only so many items to learn at this point, but it’s pretty manageable. I do kind of look forward to the slower pace starting next level when the SRS intervals are doubled, that way I don’t have to check on it quite so often… Still, I would say this pace and workload is pretty OK, all things considered. I think I’m on track for about 8-9 days a level, but this isn’t a specific priority for me and I’d rather gain a more thorough understanding of the language than simply rush the game part.

I would probably be a little further into this level if I had done all the Radicals at once, but doing them in two batches on separate days I think worked better for me. I only had to recall a few at a time, then, and I think 1 day between Kanji unlocks isn’t the end of the world. They will all be done by tomorrow morning (cow and personal got delayed) but that will make all remaining kanji available by the time I start lessons.

Problem points

「力いっぱい」 is giving me some issues. It’s not difficult to remember or type, but the most immediate phrase that comes to mind is “All Out” and not “With All One’s Might”. I checked Jisho just in case and it appears that 「死ぬ気で」 is more appropriate to that phrasing so I’m hesitating to add that as a synonym, but still I can’t help but feel a little annoyed that my Meaning input was only a smidge off and it was still downgraded… a similar thing happened with radical ム (personal =/= private). I’m sure this will not be the last one.

Wagotabi

I got a かばん in my last session so I can say: 「僕のはカバンにモモをいれました」

I think that’s right, anyways. Wagotabi has not provided a kanji for peach yet, and I’m not 100% sure how to say “peaches from a peach tree”. 「モモの木からモモ」とですか? I’m always accepting grammar feedback and corrections if someone is willing to share :slight_smile:

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おはよう!

Today has been productive, but not brain melting, which I consider to be a success.

WaniKani

18 lessons, today. It appears I mistimed my Kanji Guruing and now I have nothing in the queue until tomorrow (well, tonight technically) after I Guru tonights batch. A small victory perhaps? But still delaying my level a little longer than I’d like. I’m sure I’ll discover a pace I prefer in time.

Wagotabi

I have been introduced to several temperature related words such as 暑い and 寒い for the weather, as well as 熱い, 暖かい, 涼しい, and ぬるい.

そして、モモタロウの小さい石の犬を見つけました。

The gane displays Momotarō in hiragana, but I’m opting to use katakana for clarity.

Honestly the more I play the gsme the more impressed I generally am with it and the vision the developers seem to have. My only real unertainty so far is that a few example sentences utilize です in places that I don’t think is typical, based on my (albeit limited) understanding of grammar.

Example:

「このお茶は熱ですけど飲みます。」とよみます。

My understanding is that this may be correct in a very formal setting, but isn’t typical polite grammar and isn’t generally required. At least, that is the impression I have based on Imabi and a few articles. I’ll have to look in to it more before I become to critical of this point.

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Hello again,

It’s been a few days, now. Somehow even after an exhausting weekend I managed to mostly keep to my schedule (though a few reviews most certainly suffered for it).

In other news, my roommate has also picked up learning Japanese. They were especially interested in learning more about Kanji and such (not a joke, literally after teaching them how to draw 馬), but for now they’ve begun working on learning kana and a bit of Wagotabi, but I’m sure they’ll start learning more Kanji sooner or later. Still, it’s nice to have someone along for the ride irl.

WaniKani

I achieved level 3 a few days ago. Except for a rough day where I could only muster some 15 lessons, I managed to get through the 20 a day I’m shooting for so far. WKStats says I’m on a steady 98% review rate, which feels really good, and I’ve got 183 Guru’d items with 60 currently in Apprentice. Pretty reasonable steady pace, so far.

Wagotabi

I roommate started last week, and it’s been nice to have short chats about grammar and other terms. As for myself, I’ve honestly not made a huge amount of progress this weekend on account of things just being really busy, but I learned some animal words (豚と馬と牛と鳥と虫)so that’s fun. I’ve also started to ‘Master’ a number of the early vocabulary; it’s up to 50 words of ~195 currently learned. I also learned that Focus Test increase mastery so… I should do those some more (especially for all of the giving/receiving verbs, goodness).

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Day 16

I’m actually a little surprised it’s been this long! I haven’t been doing it for a while, but just over 2 weeks of continuous kanji’ing is still big! I should do a one month update when I get there.

WaniKani

I am rapidly approching the end of the free trial. I think, sans personal issues with frustrating bad inputs, that this sytem will work for me and I will probably continue to use the service in the long term. Guess I’ll be sticking around for a while :slight_smile:

Cows 牛 and Noons 午 are plummeting my stocks and I don’t know if I will ever financially recover. I’m sure I’m not the first to struggle with these and in truth this is a sign that I should slow down and really actually analyze what I’m looking at, but as my wise friend says: “I’ve learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing.” So onwards I press.

Arrow 矢 is also giving me issues, but in this case for the reading. Meaning is down pat, but I’ll need to memorize the reading unless I can create a more memorable mnemonic.

Wagotabi

Somehow this is proving the best way to learn exceptional number readings, for me at least. More early terms have been mastered (up to 63) and I only have another 66 words to learn in the current version. Maybe I’ll try to play through again fully in Japanese once that feature is added? That would be a good challenge.

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Congratulations! :tada:
Don’t forget to relogin to the forum so that your level displays correctly! trunky_rolling
And best of luck with your studies! wricat

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Okay, proper update time:

Day 19

It’s been a busy week, so I haven’t had a lot of time to study grammar points specifically from Imabi between work and other things. I’m considering swapping from it to the Genki I copy I have laying around until I’m better able to digest the technical writing Imabi provides (which can be overwhelming to me at times), though I also like the looks of みんなの日本語. Jumping around to different workbooks is obviously not good for my progress necessarily, but they are both well regarded and it’s also about finding what works best for me personally. Suggestions welcome, though with my experience working mostly in Japanese with Wagotabi I’m leaning more toward みんなの日本語.

Yesterday, found a most excellent video presentation someone shared on these forums about language acquisition. It was very insightful and worth the 16 minutes to watch.

WaniKani

After a disastrous misswipe of the Japanese keyboard I use last night, I managed to level up to 4 this morning, and with that I have acquired a new set of beautiful radicals to memorize. A whopping 三十六個 of them. Surprisingly this set is not so bad thus far; except for an incorrect allocation of the meaning “Earth” to World 「世」 this set is all pretty easy to remember. We will see if that holds true tomorrow.

I feel like about 25% of the time I have a setback all thanks to a missed input and not from a bad recollection. This is, of course, a skill issue, but something that I find personally frustrating. I don’t want to force failures into successes, so I will simply need to adapt and get better about it in the long run now.

Wagotabi

I am rapidly approaching the end of the current version of the game. I will have all these words to 'Master’ once I get the 岡山県のハンコ、but once I do this will take much less time daily than it does now. I will probably use this new time to start graded readers and Genki I

Other

今日、多い練習末に、友達とインターネとビデオを見た。良かっただ!

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On my own study log someone made me aware of a user script called Double-Check that lets you fix typos which might be helpful for you if they are a common problem.

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I’ve certainly considered it, but I’m a little hesitant to lean on it. I feel like if I’m provided a tool like that, I won’t be able to help but be lazy and push things through anyways even to my detriment. If it continues to be an issue I will certainly take up the advice and see what I can do to restrict its usage.

(I love all the birds on your blog by the way, an excellent collection of photos to break up study sessions!)

Edit: Actually I had to double check because I added a good few scripts and I guess this was one i already installed??? I suppose forgetting about it is one way to ensure I don’t realize I’m using it lol

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I have no idea if this would be helpful unless you also do this, but each time I do SRS I say the word in my head, and if my inner voice is wrong then I don’t let myself correct the answer, but if my inner voice was right and I made a typo then I let myself correct it. If I’m tempted ignore this rule I imagine various friends and family being really disappointed and shaking their heads at me lol.

Also thanks, I feel like we all can use a little more wonder in our lives and pretty photos of birds are a great way to find it!

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This is very wisdom as I do practice the readings and meanings in my head (and out loud if I can). ありがとうございます!I’ll have to see if Flaming Durtles will allow me to do something similar, since that’s usually where the errors occur.

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Day 22

Much has happened! Or, in some ways, also nothing has happened! It’s all a matter of perspective I suppose, but still I press forwards!

WaniKani

Today marks the first day some items have entered into Master! The early radicals are at last pushing into that territory, which is very new and exciting! I look forward to pushing a few more items into Master in a few days when the Kanji come up in the rotation.

One thing I am pushing up against is a large volume of Apprentice items. I’ve read on numerous threads that a general recommended threshold is ~100 items in Apprentice. Some items should be exiting soon, but I just unlocked the second batch of Lvl 4 Kanji, and will be doing vocab on top of that. It may be the case that I need to undercut my 20 if I can’t keep on top of things, but I’m feeling confident for now and still have at least 2 days of head room at this pace, so it should work itself out.

Wagotabi

岡山県の日本語の先生のハンコ、ゲット!刀だ!

As of yesterday, I have officially cleared all current content in the game. I still have the goal of making that pie chart green and maybe getting more test stars, but this means I otherwise have some free time away from the game. Having put over a day of play time into it now (27 hours at time of writing), I can say without a doubt that this would be a decent entrypoint for someone looking for an interactive introduction to Japanese, with a caveat that they should probably take a week or two to learn kana first.

I’m genuinely excited about this game and hope the developers get the success they need to see the project completely through to completion. It is intensely ambitious, but I truly think it could change how learning games are made and perceived.

Studies

I’ve decided to do some exercises from Genki I while I wait on みんなの日本語 to ship. I literally cannot get enough basic construction practice down and have some extra free time, so I figured, “why not?” I tend to do my note taking and practice in a physical notebook as physically transcribing always stuck with me better than digital ever did, and it also creates a relic to look back upon and learn and revise from. I hope that I will fill it up with all sorts of notes and practice so that I can get a second book to add to my collection.

Maybe I will share some choice pages when it’s filled in some more :slight_smile:

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25日

Coming up to one month of WK’ing soon! That’s pretty exciting.

I redid a basic calculation of how long I’ve been studying. I discovered that my original number may not have been completely accurate, and it looks like I can reasonably say that I started studying Japanese on June 21st. Given that, today marks my 92nd day learning Japanese, meaning that my original estimate or previous studies was markedly off by an entire month??? Slightly embarrassing timekeeping on the one hand, but personally I’m shocked since it certainly felt like it had been 3 months.

So, uh, here’s to 3 total months with Japanese I suppose? Perhaps I should mark my calendar to do a 4 month review of those goals I set in my introductory post, see how I measure up at that time.

:crab: WK

Nearly a month into the platform, and I’ve got to say I like the system. This is working pretty well for me in terms of vocabulary and kanji recognition, so I will probably stick with it for a while longer. I’ve more or less got a routine down, though I’m not really a morning person so my weekend lessons and reviews may be a few hours later than on weekdays (on which I have external factors enforcing alive times). This is not inherently a bad thing, but it’s obnoxious in some ways and messes with my groove. I will simply have to deal with it or push the review times of some items further down.

Anyways, pacing: assuming no or few issues, I should hit level 5 in ~4 days time. I don’t tend to look too much ahead, so the size of this level was something of a surprise. Fortunately it wasn’t all new and I already recognized a number of particles and kanji thanks to previous studying, but it was still like 75% new.

I’ve managed to keep a fairly strong 98% review rate. My reading rate is a little lower than it should be thanks specifically to typos on my phone, where correcting minor errors is flat impossible, but in the long run that will be small potatoes and is an incentive to inherently improve on my own ability to actually input the characters I intend. So, skill issue basically (still frustrating).

:video_game: Wagotabi

I think this segment will be retired in the near future since it’s pretty much just numbers now (106 mastered:180 learning), though the actual grammar component is still good practice. It isn’t so hard to pull apart most basic sentences and get the meaning or even an accurate translation of the statement, but putting sentences together is, as should be expected, a whole ‘nother beast. For my purposes — primarily for appreciating and interacting with native media — the ability to write and speak the language is a bit of a secondary objective, yet improving in that capability will absolutely improve my ability to understand the language as a whole. Given that, it will be a continuing goal to start writing more in Japanese.

:books: Bookwork

New books aren’t in, but that’s probably okay. This was a sleepy week and I haven’t had a lot of energy, so mostly I’ve been trying to maintain the review schedules on the above systems.

:television: Anime

小市民「しょうしみん」

I was pointed toward 小市民 (Shoushimin: How to Become Ordinary) recently, and it’s been a pretty good way to practice listening comprehension. I’m nowhere near the point of being able to listen without English subtitles, but the modern setting helps in identifying common language. Sometimes, I can even pull apart a sentence wholesale and simply (by way of English subs for context) understand the full nature of the statement. Such flashes of insight aren’t common, but they are deeply rewarding and a proof that I am making progress. Feels good.

Mononoke the Movie: The Phantom in the Rain

Last night, 夕べ even, I watched Mononoke the Movie: The Phantom in the Rain. This was my first introduction to the series, but my gosh. Holy guacamole. This thing drips with style. Everything about it was incredible: I love the heavily stylized visuals and the intense sound design (seriously, when the soundtrack hits, it hits). Similar to Shoushimin, this was good practice to catch certain words, though mostly it was interesting to catch the intensely formal inflections of words I had already known. Can I remember them aster a watch? Absolutely not, too pretty to remember anything else. Did I recognize what was said were words I already knew and it was simply inflected into a different register of speech? Absolutely. Also it had Araragi’s voice actor, which is always a plus for me. Do recommend.

夕べ、友達と映画を見た。映画はかっこよくて面白くてすごくきれいだったよ。楽しかったよ。

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28日

Level 5 get!

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30日

It’s been a minute, but mostly I have been keeping to routine.

:crab: WK

As can be seen in the last update, I’m level 5 now! Somehow it feels like there are more items than in level 4, but it’s a marathon and not a race. I’m considering slowing my pace slightly as there are a number of items coming back up that I can scant recall, so it might be a good time to do a thorough review of everything so far to see if I have any notable pain points.

I have been a bit better at checking my swipe inputs though, so fewer instances of that frustration since my last update.


:books: Bookwork

みんなの日本語を先日届いた。I’ve nearly finished the first lesson (largely reinforcing old ground), but the writing practice is very good for my memory. For now, my plan is to try to do a lesson at least every two weeks, starting with vocabulary loading via an Anki deck I discovered, then reading the minimum amount of the English grammar notes as required, then jumping into the Japanese book for the examples and practices. I’ve got the additional workbook and questions book to go with it, which will be another good way to reinforce those lessons.

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