Does anyone say muscat?

As @Leebo said, I don’t have a problem with the Japanese and I understand where it came from. It’s more about “muscat” being used so much in English in Japan that it makes you think it may actually be correct in some places (which as people have said, isn’t the case).

I think one of the big problems I have is that on google translate, マスカット translates to Muscat, which is probably a large part of why it’s used so much.

Meanwhile, green grape translates to this, which I can’t say I’ve ever heard.


I mean, they’re definitely not wrong

2 Likes

I knew it before Japan because I have lived in a muscat wine growing region. I think many white wine enthusiasts would know it.

2 Likes

They are in my area at least

1 Like

image

3 Likes

I don’t think you even need to leave the city. Any 100円ショップ will have fun English out the wazoo.

2 Likes

I think some varieties of ‘muscat’ grape are red – the Japanese wikipedia article マスカット (ブドウ) leads off with a picture of red/black grapes.

It says that 日本では単に「マスカット」という場合は、「マスカット・オブ・アレキサンドリア」を指す場合が多い。 – and Muscat of Alexandria is a green grape.

For me (UK English), if you said ‘Muscat’ I’d assume you meant the wine (but it’s a sufficiently topic-specific kind of word that I might be confused if you didn’t use it in a context where a kind-of-wine word would be likely).

2 Likes

I have only seen マスカット and 白ぶどう, so I cant say anything about using ao and I’m too lazy to look it up.

Here’s a picture of my can of chuhai which uses the latter tho

9 Likes

Oh I completely forgot about 白ぶどう! Yeah I’ve seen that quite a bit too, I want to say I’ve seen it used more in juices (as your picture would suggest).

3 Likes

Thanks for the information! :grin:

2 Likes

I’ve definitely heard muscat used before in English… specifically to refer to muscat grapes. Actually, I think I’ve only heard “muscat grape” rather than just “muscat” by itself. (And even then, I think I’ve only heard it the once, several years ago on a family vacation when we stopped at a winery since my parents love wine and I got muscat grape juice.) We definitely just call green grapes “green grapes” though unless we mean a specific type

1 Like

This topic was automatically closed 365 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.