Adding new kanji to my SRS

Hi everyone,
I couldn’t find a post about this, so I decided to ask.

I’m currently starting Lesson 3 of Genki I. I’m at level 11 in WaniKani, so I already know some kanji and vocabulary, but I still come across a lot of new words in the textbook.

For words written only in hiragana/katakana, I usually just add them to my Anki deck. My question is: what do you do with new kanji words?

Do you make:

  • 2 cards for 1 word:
    kanji → reading and kanji → meaning

  • or 1 card with:
    kanji → reading + meaning

I’ve also thought about adding English → Japanese cards, but then it would become 3 cards per word, and I’m not sure if that’s too much.

What works best for you?

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It’s a kind of thing where there are more opinions than people, but if I was starting from the beginning, I’d probably take the following approach.

Say, a book lists 鉛筆 (えんぴつ) in the kanji form, and I don’t know the word and don’t know one or both kanji.
I would first learn the word without kanji.
Card 1: word in hiragana/furigana/audio → meaning.

This enables reading with furigana and listening, and builds a foundation for kanji and speaking.

If in 2 months I see 鉛筆 (with furigana) again and this time I remember the word, I might add it in kanji form.
Card 2: word in kanji → reading + general meaning (as vague or specific as you want)
Initially I would not make cards for isolated kanji, only analyze them and note down general meaning and 1 or 2 dominant readings. This info should be easily accessible (linked or embedded) when failing card 2.

This enables reading with sufficient context.

If it doesn’t seem to work, and similar kanji are being mixed up, add a kanji production card.
Card 3 (optional): kanji meaning+readings+example word → draw kanji or enumerate all components

This enables test-taking where you are quizzed on words in isolation.

I used to do Card 3 for pretty much every kanji in the past, but it took a lot of time disproportionate to benefit for reading, so I’ve stopped until/if I attempt to learn handwriting in the future.

All 3 card types on self-grade fail/hard/normal/easy system, not typing.

I would not personally recommend either kanji → English keyword, or English word → Japanese word cards, since I think they serve no purpose, but YMMV.

Specifically for English → Japanese direction, outside of basic concrete nouns (e.g. dog) nothing maps one to one. You work on your production and speaking capability by reading/listening/srs whole sentences and building predictive chains context → likely words one might want to use.

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Thanks a lot, I will try to use these tips.

Don’t separate reading and meaning for the vocab, it doesn’t make sense IMO. If you see 厨房 and can’t figure out the meaning or reading then it’s a fail as far as I’m concerned. Those three things (spelling, reading and meaning) need to be tied together in your brain, not studied separately.

It would be like saying “I’m studying French, should I have one card for the meaning of the word and one card for their grammatical gender”. No, I don’t think you should, that’s how how you think about these concepts when you’re fluent, they’re all a different aspect of the same unit.

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I used kanji → reading plus meaning.

And if I hadn’t learned the kanji yet I used different styles to solve this problem:

  • kana vocab or kana vocab recognition - for kanji-related vocab I have not studied the kanji - the front shows the kanji and the kana reading, the back shows the english.
  • kanji vocab or kanji recognition -when I learn the kanji then I graduate cards to this type (I don’t remake the cards, I just search for kanji I studied and update any from the ‘kana vocab’ to ‘kanji vocab’ style. Now the kanji stays on the front but the kana reading goes to the back and the English is still on the back.

For 2 way cards then the other card stays the same (English → Japanese with kanji and kana on the back).

The key is in Anki for this deck to have your main sorting field be kana (all words have kana) and have kanji as an optional field.

Here is a link to my deck and if you import it you will get those styles (it’s not pretty but it did the job for me!). I used 2 way cards for the first 1-2k words, 1-way after that (too many synonyms), and I stopped SRS somewhere around 4k words.

https://community.wanikani.com/t/%F0%9F%94%8E-mitracs-study-log-and-%F0%9F%8C%B1-experiments/61670/11?u=mitrac

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