皆さん今日は Practice outside WaniKani

Hi Everyone!

This is my first post and I’ve been wanting to do it for a while, you are all awesome :sunglasses:

It’s been a month since I joined WaniKani, I made it to level 5 yay and honestly it’s been nothing short of rewarding. Counting out radicals, I have about 400 Kanji and vocab in Guru or Master. I did all of this in a month? Wow! Thanks WaniKani :heart_eyes:

I want to ask about the SRS and tips to make my learning better. Because of gamification, I rarely put significant effort in my lessons and mainly rely on the SRS to drill the kanji/readings. However, I’m noticing that some items are sticky and it can get frustrating when I don’t remember a word from lvl2 when I should’ve mastered it.

Is it okay to practice the leeches outside WaniKani by like writing them in sentences using my limited grammar (Ch 4 ish in Genki 1) or would that be considered cheating the SRS? I noticed that if learn and drill a word outside WaniKani, I have an easier time remembering its reading because I’ve seen that word in context or practiced writing it in my workbook. Will those leeches eventually be taken care of by SRS or will I be writing いっつ for 五つ 5-10 levels from now?

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Good rule of thumb: Practicing more isn’t cheating! SRS is designed to make efficient use of your time, but if you want to spend more time studying, it’ll only help you. Personally I’d recommend spending most of your extra time studying Grammar. Wanikani is 100% vocabulary, and that’s only half the picture when it comes to learning a language, so it’s important to balance both.

Oh, and welcome to the WK club!

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I think the point of SRS is more about learning a lot of information fast. 75%-85% knowledge retention just from the SRS. You can spend the extra time to learn the other 15-25% information but that is only if you want to increase your study load. In the long run it wont matter imo because you will be learning the words just by picking them up by use or by reading.

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That’s why I got the Genki textbook. Although I skip all the kanji on there and just read the furigana because I know that WaniKani got my back. So intentionally trying to incorporate words from WaniKani into my grammar studies won’t mess up the spaced recall intervals?

Are you saying that its better worth my time doing something else (grammar for instance) because these words will eventually stick either from SRS or from use by reading? I low key fear that most of the words I’m learning using mnemonics won’t stick for some reason and that I’m only getting them right for a week or so before they come back and get me later down the road.

Incorporating the kanji into other practice is a great idea, and it’s not going to mess up your srs system or anything. Again, more practice will only help you learn even more.

Reading is always a great idea because it gives you both vocabulary and grammar, all in real context. My advice is to do lots of different things, that way you’ll always get the benefits of each method, and they’ll all reenforce each other along the way.

Yup, thank you so much!

There are always going to be items that you get wrong, either because you forget, you are tired/too distracted, your finger slipped so you made a typo, or any other reason you can think of. Most items you learn here, you will get right most of the time, though.

You will sometimes (or often) also encounter words you learned in WK, in some other resource you use for learning Japanese, and that is totally okay!

Those words that seem extra troublesome to you, go ahead and practice them some other way. Google it (image search works well for concrete concepts), see how it is used, or what definitions different dictionaries use. Or put them in sentences and practice grammar at the same time. Your mind may just need apush to remember these words, see them in different contexts to convince itself it really should remember. Also at some point you’ll stop reviewing the word outside of WK, so when it comes time to burn it, it may well be that you haven’t seen it in four months.

If you practice outside of WK you’re gonna get them right… which is good, since it means you remember them! And that’s the whole point.

What’s counterproductive is checking your items due for review right before the review cause then obviously you would know them from just having checked the answers.
But if you study and practice outside and then come back normally to WK and do your reviews like usual, knowing more isn’t a bad thing.

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What’s been helping me is playing Visual Novels, or more specifically Otome games. They been helping me get use to reading Kanji and I learn Kana words that they would use a Kanji character for that Kana then just only the Kana by itself. I recommend getting Otome Games that are fully Voice so then you can read along what the Character is saying and you can hear them talk over and over again to understand how they pronounce it. I wouldn’t recommend it for beginners since you will need to read the Menu screen of how to Save an Entry and to Continue where you left off. Ever since I been playing ACNH, I been slacking off in my Studies and I want to get back into it.

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