Oh i c, maybe try shaving off a couple days per week and replace the KS reviews with Bunpro lessons and reviews. Maybe three times a week so your at least dipping your toes in the grammar
I am using NativShark, which has been great for guiding me through grammar. It has a pretty high subscription cost but I find it teaches me stuff well and in an entertaining way too, so I have shelled out for the annual plan.
I really need the handholding that it provides, as I have started and given up on Japanese many times over the last few years… but this is my longest learning streak yet (around 2 months now)!
=o thats good to hear! I’ll check it out, I’ve actually never heard of it
I’m pretty sure it has a 7 day free trial if you’re interested! It’s supposed be a comperhensive resource - it teaches you grammar, vocab and kanji with loads of audio etc, and it’s split up in small units so you can do one a day. I think it’s pretty good for everything except kanji, but that’s what we have WaniKani for
Not really a web resource, but Japanese the Manga Way: An Illustrated Guide to Grammar and Structure is a really fantastic book for helping with grammar.
Also, playing older Pokémon games in Japanese is a fun way that helps a bit. Really kana heavy for the first few gens, though.
I actually did just buy that book =D Planning to get into manga so i thought it would be a good pick! I really want to read all of one piece someday and then maybe berserk if i have the guts XD
I saw that and was thinking would it be better to jump into the later gens and which ones did you like the most?
Genki Text Books
My favorites and most used:
Japanese from Zero, also YesJapan.com (the web version of Japanese From Zero)
Learn Japanese with Stories.
I have loads more in books, etc. but these are the ones I love best.
Listening to podcast (nihongo con teppei beginner) (once aday)
Reading manga (whichever is free and interesting at the time (book walker app)
(once a week)
Besides WaniKani, I am mainly attending to a lower-intermediate Japanese course in an academy, which consists on grammar and conversation lessons.
For grammar, we are using a book called 中級へ行こう, whereas for conversation we rely on the first book of Weekly J.
In addition to that, I use Anki to write down and learn the vocabulary that comes up during the lessons and I did not learn in WaniKani yet.
I also used KaniWani in order to learn the English-Japanese way of the WaniKani vocabulary, but I had to give it up by now because I don’t have so much free time and used to be overwhelmed, but I think that if anybody does have time, it is advisable to practice it as well, by means of this web or any similar.
“Then maybe Berserk if I have the guts”
Lol, I saw what you did there.
Here’s some ideas for using Genki I and BunPro as a joint tool for example.
On Sunday plan your study week.
Pretend that you’re moving onto Chapter 5 of Genki I.
BunPro has six grammar points for this chapter and Genki has 4 sections and one expression note.
You can tackle this in multiple ways to ensure you’re doing a little bit of grammar most days:
- Divide the number of BunPro grammar points by the number of days you will study. For example, if you wanted to you can do two grammar points Monday - Thursday and then the Practice section Friday.
- Divide the sections in Genki in the same way so you do one section a day. You can then still do the Practice section on Friday or you can do the Practice section for each grammar area on the day and have Friday as a review day or a day off.
For shorter sections and shorter chapters you can do more over a shorter period and for longer sections and longer chapters you can do less over a longer period of time.
You can customise that approach to find something that works for you remembering to add the grammar point in BunPro so you get the SRS benefit throughout the rest of your journey through Genki.
The idea is that you work through Genki, for example, one chapter a week or one chapter every two weeks.
That way you aren’t getting bored by moving too slowly and you aren’t getting overwhelmed by moving too quickly.
I like doing it this way because it lets me read Genki, do the exercises, and not feel too tired that I can’t look at the alternative resources on BunPro for wider reading.
I started learning Japanese through Duolingo about 2 months ago or something. There I came across words that used hard kanji in them so I wanted to figure out a way to learn kanji better, so I came here to Wanikani. It’s much easier now to remember different kanji after learning the radicals here.
In the past, before Wanikani, I have use various textbooks (Japanese for Everyone, Japanese the Spoken Language, Minna no Nihongo, Genki, Tobira) and for anyone starting out I would recommend a textbook for grammar.
Right now I am taking a JLPT N2 prep course via Zoom in which we use:
- 新完全マスター文法 日本語能力試験 N2 (Shin Kanzen Master N2 for Grammar) - ISBN 978-4883195657
- N2 聞く (JLPT N2 Listening) - ISBN 978-4896894752
- 「かえるくん、東京を救う」(Super-Frog Saves Tokyo) - ISBN 978-4140351277
- Core 6000 website (https://iknow.jp/content/japanese)
Starting from the N2 level, the 新完全マスター books describe Japanese grammar in Japanese (no English at all), and the vocabulary used in the example sentences and practice exercises is pretty difficult so I don’t really recommend it unless you are up for that.
N2 聞く is AMAZING! For each listening exercise it has the full transcript, lists a couple grammar points to take note of, and a couple vocabulary terms you might not already know. The dialogues are a good mix of formal and casual conversations, and grammar includes things that aren’t really “textbook” but occur often in real conversation like shortening endings of phrases. However, other than the English equivalents for vocab words this is also all in Japanese (grammar points explained with simpler Japanese equivalents).
かえるくん is published as a bilingual book (I think intended for Japanese trying to learn English) and filled with translation notes for each chapter. There are no furigana and kanji and grammar usage is a little advanced, but the teacher helps us with the parts we don’t get as we take turns reading aloud.
Core 6000 is one I would recommend adding to Wanikani for anyone of any level as it adds a lot of kana-only vocabulary you won’t see on Wanikani.
I have almost everything I use as an app on my phone:
Wanikani itself I mostly use via Flaming Durtles.
Other than that I use these apps:
Takoboto (dictionary which can show pitch accent, create lists, export to Anki)
Sync for NHK easy news (i really like that you can hide furigana for words that you already know)
And recently an app called “jlpt test” which seems to have like practice tests for jlpt. Haven’t used it enough to say anything about it though.
GL on the test! I would like to eventually take it myself as well. A Japanese course would be cool in the future =o I will check this stuff out
Cool i had no idea that you could sync up with NHK!
Black and White are good for it, that’s when they started allowing you to choose between using kanji and all kana.
Also it’s just personally my 2nd favorite gen so definitely not biased at all
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