[No Longer Maintained] Flaming Durtles - Android app with offline support

I just pushed an update to the Google Play Store that includes the line diagrams for the pitch info. Have a look, I hope it looks good and useful!

And there’s also some more performance tuning in this update, this should especially make level browsing and lessons on slow devices a lot faster.

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wow, thanks!

it does look good! thanks! (would it be possible to kink pitch with certain function of the word? where it is can be specified, of course…)

yes, it is imported and in use, but with the font size for words it is not always useful there.

eh. what a pity.
it is understandable for size requirements, but about kanji coverage, it may lack something, but standard kana, kanji, nanori are there. not all radicals (and hentaiganas) are in, though.

anyway, thanks for commenting!

I’m not sure what you mean, but if you mean to specify the part-of-speech that a pitch applies to, that’s already in if there is a differentiation. Look at 多分 (“Maybe”) for example. Basically, if Weblio makes the distinction, then it should also be visible in the app.

ah, thanks. this information is not present for all words then.

and some report for this pitch info display.
in review, set settings ‘show answers only’.
then, answering reading before meaning, pitch info is hovering over kanji.

examples below.

the similar thing happens on the second answer (meaning and then reading), but in this case it depends on amount of information for ‘meaning’

Yep. I’m guessing for most words there is no difference based on part-of-speech, so it’s usually not necessary/relevant, but I don’t know how complete the data on Weblio is.

Ah, that looks ugly. I must have messed up the layout constraints there. I keep overestimating how smart the constraint layout in Android is… I’ll fix it.

It’s impressive how much time you spend on developing this

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Apparently not enough since it seems I still don’t know the difference between match_parent and match_constraint :sunglasses: which is causing the pitch info layout issue…

Seriously though, it seems more than it is since I’m just banging out random chunks of code without the kind of quality control and care I normally put in. The end result is much more buggy than I like, but the changes keep coming fast this way.

With my health being what it is I don’t get out nearly as much as I’d like to anymore, so working on FD has been very useful to keep me busy and sane. And all the positive responses are helpful as well.

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(what is this font with the stroke order? thanks)

KanjiStrokeOrders

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We really appreciate all the time you put in. The app seriously is great, and your constant efforts at improvement are nothing short of amazing.
I hope your health improves and you are on the road to recovery ASAP. Sending lots of get well soon vibes and big thank yous your way.

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Super love the app! I know I’ve said it before but i legit prefer using your app to wanikani. Having said that…because I prefer it…I use it on my chromebook as well. On a Chromebook when hitting enter it normally advances it just fine without a problem. But if you get the answer wrong enter doesn’t advance the screen. It looks like the cursor is set on the search bar, because tapping tab makes it get to the next button (eventually. Sometimes it gets stuck on the search bar). Mouse is still on option, but its much slower for doing quick reviews.
I’m only bringing this up if it’s an easy fix. I would imagine I’m a super outlier using your app on a Chromebook. So no stress it it’s silly.

Hi @ejplugge!
Nice job on the app. The polish on the offline mode is impressive.
I’m myself an Android developer and I was contemplating for some time resurrecting the WaniKani for Android app with the v2 API, an offline mode and with a native UI for review/lessons.
But you’ve already done that in Flaming Durtles, so, bravo :tada:

I skimmed the replies, so I might have missed this question if it already exists, but are you open to contributions?

Maybe that can be somewhere I could help you improve Flaming Durtles, without losing its compactness. I would love to know if we can make it happen :slight_smile:

Same, but I kept procrastinating and then Flaming Durtles appeared.

Not silly at all. If running Android apps on ChromeOS was super rare, Google probably wouldn’t have bothered to support it…

Android has various ways to interact with physical keyboards, and essentially I haven’t tested it at all and haven’t put in any code to deal with that possibility specifically. I don’t own a Chromebook myself, but I guess if I pair a bluetooth keyboard with my tablet that should come close enough. It shouldn’t be too hard to make keyboard navigation easier, so I’ll put it on the list and see what I can do.

Not right now. First thing would be to open source the code, which I want to do soon-ish anyway, if only as insurance so the app doesn’t have to die in case I lose interest in Japanese or get hit by a bus. But beyond that, running FD as an open source project with outside contributors is a whole different beast than running it as a small solo project. And I don’t feel up to that right now.

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Thank you very much for adding pitch info to the app! I actually haven’t paid attention to it at all, but now I realized how important it is.
I don’t understand though, what the numbers in square brackets mean. Also, if there are multiple pitch sequences for a vocab, does that mean a difference between parts of speech, dialect or personal preference maybe?

And a small request: I would prefer the default volume to set within the app to be media, and not ring.

Oh, another one: in the browse section, it would be more informative to count the number of “not passed” and “not started” items separately, instead of putting them all in the “in progress” category.

I just discovered this app and so far I’m really liking it. Thank you for the great work! I do hope that you make it open source eventually.

Recently, I started using the kana “flickr” keyboard (on Samsung) for inputting hiragana during reviews. I noticed that if I type, say く, by swiping up on か, then it does not work when I try to add the dakuten to get ぐ. This also happens in the other WK app, but it works in the browser or other places. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to fix this?

A related feature request: I’m not sure if it’s possible in general, but I’d like if there was an option to automatically switch input method to use English keyboard (or whatever Latin alphabet keyboard) when prompting for vocabulary meaning etc. and to switch to Japanese keyboard when prompting for hiragana or katakana input. @ejplugge Do you think that would be a feasible option to add?

The number and the two kanji after it are just another way to represent the pitch, they don’t tell you anything the diagram doesn’t also show. Check out Japanese Accent Chart - Imgur and Japanese pitch accent - Wikipedia for more information about this. The diagram is the most useful/complete, the other two pieces of information are just for people who know that notation from other sources or the pitch info userscript.

The pitch info shown is of “standard” Japanese, the Tokyo Yamanote dialect you hear on TV in Japan most of the time. Covering other dialects would be a lot more complicated. If the app shows multiple pitches for a single reading, then all of those are considered acceptable in standard Japanese. Sometimes different parts of speech (noun, adjective, adverb, …) have different pitches. If so, then the part-of-speech it applies to (in Japanese) is shown in parentheses. Check out 多分 (“Maybe”) for an example of that.

I already use the default media volume. I did a quick test to confirm, and that’s what happens on all of my devices. I’ll add a call to explicitly set the stream type to “speech”, but I’m doubtful that’s going to make much difference on your device if it uses ring volume now. I hate blaming device configuration for problems, but there’s a good chance this is caused by something in your device settings.

Makes sense, I’ll put it on the list.

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You can try enabling auto-suggest in the keyboard settings, that helps with some unusual keyboard types. The app doesn’t try to interfere with unusual keyboards in any way with that setting enabled. But I just tried the flick kana keyboard on a Samsung device, and it worked just fine with and without that setting.

No, unfortunately that’s not possible. I can’t control anything about the keyboard type that pops up, except to force an ASCII-capable keyboard for meanings. Android just doesn’t give that level of control to apps (which is probably a good thing).

Thank you, all clear now!
Also, I have great hopes in that stream type setting :slight_smile:

First things first: you’re right, it’s not pretty, so you may not win an award for best design :laughing:

But I really like this app, as it helps me keeping momentum (even as a lvl 4 user), because of all the nice features like reordering of lessons and reviews.

Thank you splease much and good work, as fast as I’m concerned atm :+1: