Let's persuade Wanikani to add more levels

Not intending on derailing this thread, but any chance you could share the vocab list you are making for 日本酒? :upside_down_face: Being in the midst of a professional course on brewing traditional Korean liquor, Japanese liquor is definitely next on my to-do list :heart_eyes:

That is also a very good point: the context sentences are very ineffective, and a much better system to see kanji’s and vocabulary in context should be used and reviewed.

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That’s the first character of Tochinoshin’s name - a good enough reason for me and every other sumo fan! :slight_smile:

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I would love to know more about brewing traditional Korean liquor. I’ve been round 日本酒 breweries and chinese 白酒 breweries. I’d love to understand the similarities and differences.

Here is my WSET Sake level 3 deck. I’ll publish the JSA one in due course.

https://kitsun.io/store/detail/5cb28436eb68123c400eef4a

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I can’t really words well enough to explain things but I think especially up to the levels I’m at A LOT A LOT of work could be done. I struggle massively where I feel it’s not necessary.

I felt that way at first, but it’s actually satisfying once one starts to burn those kanji to realize that sentences that were once just pure gibberish are finally a bit more intelligible somehow. That is, if one bothers to revisit these sentences as one progresses, or at least at the time of burning as a farewell of sorts.

What I actually meant was that, if there are to be additional levels, those kanji used in sample sentences that are never taught by WaniKani would be good candidates for addition. 嬉, for example.

(They may not be included in some revered list, but if one can’t help but use them in sample sentences, perhaps there is merit to also teaching them? Also, how does one find out if a kanji in the sample sentence is not on WK? This script.)

Not that I advocate adding additional levels per se which is the topic. There’s that comment saying these sparse kanji could be tucked in to the existing levels instead. That works too maybe not, re: prerequisite radicals, etc. but this is just in the spirit of a lively discussion because complaining is still a must, apparently. Well, maybe not this type of complaining… Back to reviews now.

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That sample page made me hungry

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I guess, but I want to be done with WK in a reasonable amount of time. I wouldn’t feel satisfied knowing I didn’t truly complete it, even if I had a gold badge. 60 already feels quite far away so raising the cap would make it feel even more daunting.

WK isn’t meant to be the be-all end-all for Kanji, but it’s supposed to provide a healthy basis to build on from your own experience with the language, which I think it accomplishes as-is well enough.

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Well to set aside the “useful not useful” aspect, lets look at it from a business perspective. How much would it cost to implement bonus levels that cover all the kanji’s you’d ever need?

Those who are interested could just crowdfund the amount if it isn’t extraordinary high. In the end you could sell it as “you’ll be fine if you get to 60, but if you get bored at 60, here are a few bonus levels” or something

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This is a wonderful idea, actually! There are a ton of common vocab words that WK doesn’t teach, even though they have WK kanji. And this would prevent the issue of too many obscure kanji. It’d be a lot less stressful too since you’d be using kanji you’ve already learned in the previous levels instead of worrying about learning new kanji.

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What I would really love is like an optional extra where you can choose to add on extra vocabulary for things like the JLPT levels, or the core decks. I’ve tried things like Kitsun, Torii and Anki, but none are as effective as WaniKani for some reason. I would happily pay more to have Kanji and Vocab in the one place.

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It is nice to see that now several of these words in your list above made into WK. :slight_smile:

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Just think it would be cool if all jouyou would be covered, since we’er really close. Would feel more complete to me

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It feels fairly obvious to sooner or later add the remaining N1 and Joyo kanji. I get that many of them are not so useful, but levels after 60 could be treated as “bonus” levels, or only unlock once you’ve reached a certain number of burns, or something like that.

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That’s a lot of work for “bonus” levels that very few users would actually get to.

For a long time WK only had 51 (?) levels, do you think people made the same fuss about increasing it to 60?

I’m pretty sure they’ve had 60 for much longer than they had 50 at this point. Regardless, that doesn’t discount my point that adding new levels isn’t a cost-effective way of adding new content.

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Since I’m just starting out maybe my perspective could be of some help.
As I see up there the sight is woow, there is a lot be done and that’s a strong good point, and thinking that every now and then there’s content being improved is ahh so nice I can’t wait to get there.
So I think there is a lot to do not just because of Wanikani since after it’s finished or while working on it, I keep in mind what’s next.
Kisun.io 10k and its kana courses.
Bumpro for grammar.
maybe FloeMoe.
But I just try to enjoy what’s happening now cuz I don’t want to burn along those kanjis :grin:
Soo maybe Wanikany lv60 is good, a lv 70 might be too overpowered.

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Kitsun has Beyond WK kanji, it looks aesthetically nice and has 997 cards but I’m thinking of just adding the most useful that are missing on WK and hibernating the rest in the deck (wish I started this earlier)…didn’t find a thread specifically on practical missing kanji other than leebo’s post above. 叶う came up today, and thought I’ve seen it a few times now but not on WK either.

Is this the SRS grammar app where you pay for lifetime but never use it :stuck_out_tongue:

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Getting in silkworm is a no brained and should be added to an existing 40 to 60 level.

The remaining missing high school kanji might me better served doing similar and added 2 extra kanji per existing later half level.

The remains items outside these I would consider as extra levels whenever ;). I’ve heard the idea of having sets of 10 levels set to themes. Names, plants, fish, etc.

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