I feel i learn nothing

This is the road map to all the stuff they will be adding this year.


The developer is still adding more content as the site is still in development so I assume the N4 content would improve.

I have a low sense of self esteem always, not matter what. This feeling has yet to go away from me, even after 10 plus years of learning. いつも自信がないよ~


I wonder what their definition of development is. I don’t recall much change from when I started using their app (around when it first came out) to 1-2 years ago when I stopped using it. The content additions I recall were European languages.

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This, I’m having the same feeling, like unless I reach a relatively high level am not gonna able to read for real, so I’m wondering if it’s just a matter of patience or if there is a more efficient way.
I learned Chinese years ago, and even thought my reading wasn’t that amazing I could read much faster ( ho and yeah it doesn’t help that much for Japanese )

I honestly think I just have a much better sound memory, It showed for other language I learned, am just good parrot XD, hence why reading has always been the hardest part of every language I learned


I know this is going to sound like woo, but seriously, stop shitting on yourself and stop talking about yourself this way. I’ve had low self-esteem all my life. I know exactly how you feel. I would go whole weekends without eating or leaving my house or texting anyone or looking in a mirror. Recently, even.

But if you talk about yourself in better terms, your brain will believe it and you’ll start to feel better and get more done. My best friend forces me to do this but she’s right.

I decided one day I was going to overcorrect: I’d actively practice talking like Escanor from Seven Deadly Sins. Just ridiculously arrogant all the time. But I actually feel better when I do. You’d be shocked at the difference.



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MaruMori doesn’t have any European languages so I think you may be thinking of something. It’s just Japanese grammar, kanji, and vocabulary.

I was talking about Lingodeer, sorry for not clarifying. I haven’t used the other app :+1:

Oh I was talking about MaruMori so that’s why I was so confused. Lol

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Well, the point isn’t about upping the challenge ante. It’s about solidifying the knowledge you already have while building new knowledge. Yes they don’t let you skip the kana sections, but they’re so quick to get through (you can do them all in 15 minutes) that it’s NP. After you move past kana, you’ll learn 1100 words from the N5 and N4 sections. I wish they would expand that out, but for the time being for the very beginner level, it’s a fantastic app for hammering home some core vocab.

Hey, if you struggle to tap into the vocabulary words you’ve learnt on WaniKani, you should probably check out KaniWani. Basically, WK helps you recognise and read kanji and words, whereas KW does the opposite, you have to write the Japanese words from the English prompts.
It is free and will automatically synchronise with your WK level. I feel like it helps both in Japanese expression, and in increasing the amount of reviews you do per word.
I also reached level ~15 the first time around on WK and got frustrated with the amount of words I couldn’t recall when I wanted to speak. We’ll see if KW helps in the long run ^^
Good luck!

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I’m sure you are learning and progressing, but you may be overwhelmed by the amount of new material you are trying to process and acquire. Learning and acquiring a language is not easy, and the main thing you need to do is just keep at it and find tools that will help you progress. But incremental progress is sometimes difficult to monitor in the week-to-week but may be easier to observe over the course of several months.

Do you want to type or write by hand? If it’s the latter, you need to start taking notes in a notebook, and if it’s the former you need to type simple sentences. Also, you need to focus on developing your grammar, which will help you produce sentences. I’d recommend slowing down on WaniKani a little (20 days per level? limiting your number of Apprentice and Guru items?) in order to focus on and process the items you know okay… Or just know that it’ll take until those items are Master/Enlightened before they start to really feel strong. There’s a reason they aren’t burned, though… you still need to review them.

How’s your class? What textbook(s) are you using? Are you able to absorb what you’re learning? Is there instructional time given to practicing and using the language you are learning? Besides giving you feedback about word choice and usage, does your sensei offer helpful feedback and encouragement?


maybe overwhelmed? I never spent more than 1,5h a day with japanese studies since 2 years I started WK, retention is better than quantity.

since lvl 11 when WK recommended nhk easy news I felt that moment that I had progression from first 10 lvls. And I wanted more…

Started bunpro (N5 until half N1) and I had only 2 SRS at the same time, for a year I used WK and bunpro, it became overwhelming for me keeping those 2, so I dropped bunpro in N1.

Today I spend 45min daily in WK and 40min to watch 2 anime episodes with JP subtitles, I feel a lot of progress in me not forcing myself for now and just reassuring what I learned from previous levels, that’s going forward IMO.

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In a world where instant gratification is at our fingertips, it`s common to forget that meaningful development takes a significant amount of time, not just in Japanese, but in anything you do.

You’re only 15 levels in, give it some time. With consistency, you’ll reap the rewards. You don’t need a lot of resources to progress - especially if you have time limitations. I was only using WK and reading grammar explanations on google until level 40, when I started Bunpro. Try to stick to only 1 resource for vocab/kanji and 1 resource for grammar (eg. WK and Bunpro)

If you feel a lack of motivation, I recommend reading. Seeing kanji in an article, video, etc. and recognising it brings great satisfaction.


FWIW I think this is pretty normal. The vocabulary you can produce always lags behind what you can recognize, so there’s always going to be a set of things you think you kinda know and ought to be able to say but can’t yet smoothly recall when you try to say something.


Do you mind if I ask what your pace is in Wanikani? Like your average days per level?

Hi, if you’re wondering why you’re not able to output correctly yet most of the times or not understand anything, it’s probably because the way wanikani, anki, (idk japanesepod but I think it’s a podcast) teach is very fragmented, these things should actually be a suplement with inputting and not necessarly the ground foundation by it self, they make the inputting to fluency faster.
I suggest watching shows more than listening only because listening is more so for advanced learners who get the context that’s happening and can build further on that, but if you don’t have that yet, it’s quite hard.
What I recommend is to watch shows with subtitles your language subtitles first, and then right after switch to japanese without subs or preferably with japanese subtitles, this will make it so that you start grasping little things slowely, at first it’ll seem like you barely understand anything, but after sometime you’ll start recognising patterns and such, you don’t even have to search up definitions when watching, all you have to do is think actively about what’s going on, like “oh so are they talking about the ship wreck?” or “Is this person apologising?”, and after you watched it, if you find certain words in a sentence that stood out to you that think are handy, you can make sentence cards into anki, and they will be more memorable, you can also use mnemonics and such with it ofcourse.
But this is basically the best way for the brain to understand context and associate them with words, because from just learning definitions you can’t get fluent, and outputting is basically like trial and error.
There’s a lot of people who only watched content and tried to learn the way I just said, and after 1+ years they started to be able to form basic sentences naturally and then could start outputting better.
I know you already need to output more right now in class, which is good because you have a teacher that corrects you instantly, so the more you’ll watch, the more correctly you’ll understand his answers.
You can ask me more questions related to studying, as to which things may be good and which things aren’t that productive, atleast if you want to.
Take care!


Currently just under 19 days. It’s been creeping up the last few levels.

I’ll get to 60 in just over three years.