How do i manage

:roll_eyes: you’re on your own then.

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I don’t disagree but SRS can get real sucky really quick.

Hahah but that’s the only way to get past burnout tho right? Just pushing yourself right?

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Yea it sucks big time I hate it but I don’t have enough vocab to only consume Japanese content I would stop once i have enough vocab and grammar but it’s a chore

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No, absolutely not. In order to get through a burnout you need to take time off, go outside and take things slower in general.

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I’d say a way is through constancy. Don’t let your horse rush too much, nor let it stop.

If you find meaning and fun in what you are doing, maybe you can keep a larger amount. But in the way, SRS or flashcards can’t be more fun than reading, maybe also with pictures, or listening.

SRS and flashcards aren’t the only ways to memorize. Maybe also looking up and imagining mnemonics, or drawing/writing.

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How do I have fun if I have no good kanji skill or vocab? I am trying to build a foundation as they say because after I finish my deck I was going to do my immersion please correct me if I am wrong,

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My though progress is this if I take a break I might never come back I get your point but this isn’t my first time learning a language please correct me if my way is incorrect thank you

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How serious are you about learning japanese and how disciplined are you when it comes to actually doing things even when you don’t want to do them?

If “very” is the answer to both of those questions, then I’d say go forward at full speed if you want (20 items a day).

The fact that you took 3 days off, though, suggests to me that “very” probably isn’t the answer to at least the first one, though. Regardless, your goal should be to make your study routine sustainable for the time being, whatever it is. If you say you want to do 10 day levels, then you should be doing 15 lessons a day roughly. iirc. Just keep it consistent for the time being

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A way is to find materials with very little language (not dense, but still some). Maybe filled with BGM or pictures in-between.

Otherwise, not so few vocabularies would indeed need to be known, but still, grammar aside.

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Anki takes as much or as little time as you want it to. Like any other SRS, the number of reviews you have to do depends on how many cards you have and how many new cards you’re adding to it. I have an old core10k deck which I finished years ago, so it produces less than 10 reviews a day and takes me about a minute to deal with. The more new cards you add every day, the more reviews will come rolling back every day, exactly the same as with WK. You could spend hours and hours in Anki every day, but I certainly wouldn’t advise it!

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Ye that was my first break In 3 months I had exams that I had to study for but yea I think I might go slower like you said after all this is a hobby for me thanks

I add 10 new cards if I don’t have too much reviews otherwise I won’t add any new cards about 100 ish reviews a day

The thing I know about 200 words none wanikani words which I don’t think is enough but I try harder to read more thanks

As you seem to be quite lost at the moment and this is only a hobby for you, you should really reeveluate what you are willing to spend for this hobby (regarding your precious time). Even just 3 new words per day you will learn about 100 words a month, SRS stacks fast.
You can try to start reading really easy stories or do other easy things without needing SRS and still learn a lot and make this more fun at the same time. LingQ for example has really easy beginner stories that are especially made for you to not cram grammar and vocabulary, but aquire it just by reading and listening.

I know this might be the wrong place, but lets be real: Wanikani is not your most needed resource for the start, I’d argue if it is really needed at all for just reading japanese. You can absolutely naturally learn to recognize words without cramming all kanji seperately, just by keeping to look at the words and read them in differing contexts. SRS in itself is a crutch to get in a lot of information in a short time for people, but for most it is neither fun nor should it be the only thing they do, it should always be accompanied by actually immersing in the target language, otherwise you just learn out-of-context random information.
And yes, you can tinker with your cards a lot, add sentences, audio and all the other nice things, but it’s still not the same.

Language learning in the beginning can be really intimidating, thats why usually for the first few months just your motivation drives you to get to a beginner stage where you can do some things. But your motivation alone will at some point not be enough, this is where you need to build some kind of consistency and most importantly: Do things, that your brain deems fun and engaging. Humans are not made to do annoying things for a long time consistently
 some are able to, but most of us are not. :slight_smile:

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I agree with the other that brute forcing your way through especially while going through burnout is not a good way to go.

Crystal Hunters is a manga that teaches Japanese. In their free guides they have a list of vocabulary and grammar used for each book. MaruMori has really good grammar blogs and has a grammar SRS system. Koe, Shujinkou, and Nihongo Quest N5 are Japanese language learning video games that are in development right now with Koe coming out with their demo during Steam’s Next Fest in February.

I think the best thing you can do since you are focused on school exams is just do WK reviews only. Then once you finished up your exams do your reviews, but know you don’t have to go through all your reviews at once. Read Crystal Hunter’s guide and then read their books for immersion.

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Is this a hobby for you also?

thanks for the advice might check that out

All in all it’s still a hobby for me, but arguably one I can and want to put a lot of time into at the moment. The goal is definitely to reach a higher level of fluency for me and as it gladly isn’t my first “second language”, I have been through all the hardships and worries during the beginning and intermediate stages before and learned to “trust in the process” and my own abilities to learn/aquire.

I guess everyone goes at some time through the same hardships, so I’m just trying to tell people, that it doesn’t have to be a bother to learn and it is absolutely possible to reach such a goal while having fun and without exhausting oneself. I see SRS (as positive as it can be) is what burns most people out and robs every fun in learning a language for many, so I’m not all that much advocating for putting too much time into that part of the journey.
There are other ways and those do work perfectly fine, especially the most frequent vocabulary and most basic grammar is nothing, where SRS is actually needed. These topics are called frequent for a reason, you encounter them everywhere and they burn themself into your mind with a bit exposure to the target language. The only thing one really needs for learning a language in my opinion is to invest a lot of time, so it’s better to make that fun and engaging! :smiley:

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I`d do them all in a row if it was me. I write everything I learn here into my book so the quicker I do the lesson the quicker I can study the contents. Its a bonus to live in Japan so your motivation to learn kanji is harder to break alongside occasional moments where you can read the Kanji that before just looked like a mishmash of blurs.

But if you`re feeling burnout then a slower pace might be better. All situations are different. Up to you.