Definitely understandable and 100% reasonable. If the value is questionable and you’re not having fun with it in the process, makes sense to divert that time elsewhere. You seem to have a great lineup of resouces too, so glad you are finding value in those and learning a lot. WK will always be here for you if you ever feel the need, but as long as you’re learning and enjoying yourself no need to be there for it. Congrats on all you’ve accomplished so far and will continue to !
you too, man I love this community, will still hang about the forums occasionally for sure, I guess you could see that as another investment you get with WK, access to a ton of book clubs, helpful people and stuff with little risk of toxicity and belligerence
Drackyslime made some good points, because you have Wanikani unlocked forever, you can always return if you think it might be useful again.
And YES, go for it! I started out with 1 30 minute lesson a week, and scheduled my next lesson when each finished. Now I do an hour 1-2 times a week. A completely worthwhile investment. Changed my whole life, conversing in Japanese is my favorite thing and now my Job ![]()
Yeah, that’s certainly a plus. I just recently started exploring these forums but the community here is great, both in terms of activity and quality of the userbase. Love being here, love having you here, and hope it continues to bring people together for us all.
i started with rtk but i started finding it obnoxious; not sure why to be honest. also pure flashcards do nothing for me; i hate that and anki has failed for me often. I need a forced input step to help me cement my memory. keep in mind, speaking isn’t a priority for me; reading and writing is (and it is a special case; I have health issues that prevent me speaking for going on 8yrs now).
in the end; you just have to find the method that works for you personally. learning isn’t as generic as boomer and older teachers would like things to work. everyone has their particular path that works best and that is something technology has given an improved edge to.
So it’s free now. If it’s not useful enough for you to use for free, well then you probably should… stop using it? I think you’re making a bigger thing of this than it is. You don’t have to formally resign and give it up forever. It’s there, it doesn’t cost anything (else, at this point). Use it when you want to, not when you don’t.
well I mean, a lot of my time is spent on japanese, and WK costed quite a bit for me back then, so I wanted to consider the decision carefully and get other opinions, nothing wrong with caution
I feel you there. The thing is, that’s already done, in the past. Right now, it’s either useful to you or it’s not, and that doesn’t depend on having spent money.
Don’t let last year’s money control this year’s life. At this point, WK is a free resource to you in terms of not needing to pay any more money to access it, but there is still a cost in terms of time. If it isn’t working as a tool in a way that’s good for you, for whatever reason, that friction is probably a bigger cost than the monetary one ever was.
Good luck whichever direction you go in!
If RTK is working out for you and you like it more than WK, then I would say don’t look back. Don’t fall for the fallacy that just because you already invested time/money in one thing that you need to keep at it.
Time is a precious resource. If you can use that extra time towards native materials instead, you’re better off.
Me, I think WK’s slow pacing and forced typing is actually working out so I don’t want to mess with it. But that’s me and you’re you. Go for what works for you. If in a few months you feel like RTK is getting too hard, then maybe you learned best with both and you can come back if that’s needed.
There is the Anki script which lets you pass or fail a review anki-style. I found it much fast, efficient and more enjoyable once I put that one on.
I think that will work out fine. I never tried to explicitly learn individual kanji readings, I just learned vocab. You’ll find that you pick up the “this kanji is usually read xyz” and “kanji with this right part tend to share this onyomi” as you go along without specifically studying that. I think some people find separately learning the most common onyomi reading of a kanji a useful stepping stone that makes the vocab learning part easier, but you probably know by now for yourself how helpful or not it is for you.
I do strongly recommend against trying to memorise “this is all the possible readings for this kanji” - I think that is basically never useful.
I would note as somebody who did go through all of RTK and at one point could do “English keyword to write the kanji” for the whole set: the difficulty is tying that in to actual writing of Japanese. For purely reading, it certainly gives you enough that SRS of Japanese vocabulary → English meaning should be no problem; but I think that if you care about writing you will also need to have some kind of practice and study of Japanese word → writing it. Otherwise when you want to write, say, べんきょう (study) in kanji you’ll still be stuck even if you can go from “exertion” to 勉 and “strong” to 強. I never figured out a solution to this that I was happy with – what happened first was that I no longer had much reason to need to handwrite Japanese. And without being able to write words on demand, the “English keyword to kanji” memorisation isn’t much more than a party trick. (Of course WaniKani isn’t teaching you how to write words either.)
I went with the approach of learning vocabularies in order to cover all Kanji readings, plus reading exceptions, and I consider that helpful – rather than just blindly using only WaniKani’s level lists.
One thing I do differently from WaniKani, is that there is no need to know all Kanji in the vocab to learn that vocab. (And you don’t need to remember everything well.)
But there are a lot of vocabularies irl, and it can easily be overdone. Vocab list can go too far ahead of immersion.
Nonetheless, WaniKani’s Kanji sequence might work better for vocabularies than RTK’s. If you want to go with another suitable sequence, that might be school grade lists.
Exactly right. I’m sure the community will also be richer for your staying.