Are you satisfied with the learning speed?

[xXX_MichaeL_XXx]

no. i have terminal stupid

[WeebPotato]

@alexsandred

ah I see. well, maybe you are right because I remember when iv read some study on the effectiveness of en/jpn and jpn/eng review mode turned out the results of people who were using that mode were just slightly better compared to people who were just learning words through jpn/eng mode. Meanwhile, you spend like 2x+ time. Maybe it’s the same with input where you spend tons of extra time but an actual benefit for long-term memory is not that high.

The thing I noticed when working with the Anki input field was that what mattered more for my retention was thinking about the meaning of a word while pronouncing it and inputting it, rather than inputting alone, because it’s just letters on a keyboard. It might work better for others, though, who knows .

@alexsandred

But I still love this program so I’m probably going to continue to use it- I usually just turn on some tv-series while doing my reviews)

Sounds like a good approach! If you see it works, that’s what matters the most I think.

@Tsumabuki_Raito

I find that having multiple Anki decks with separate review piles make the experience less daunting, which makes me feel comfortable doing even more.

I have separate themed decks in Anki as well - adjectives, verbs, politics + law, school + customs, etc. I’ve been discussing the importance of themed decks with my girlfriend and from her experience mixing items gives bigger diversity and possibly makes memorization less biased. To me personally the themes help, because starting with a general core concept of a word leads faster to its nuance. Contrary, if I put words into wrong decks, I had trouble figuring them out later.

@ccookf

For the 2k → skim some grammer → hardcore immerse yourself crowd I would argue WK is more of a detour on the learning path, but reduces the effort of new learners to organize basic kanji/vocab knowledge with some gamified elements attached. RTK caters more to people who can diligently manage their studies and is a good bit cheaper.

Mmm yeah, I agree with this sentiment. Looking back at it, I think leaning too heavily on grinding kanji even if it’s with a bit of vocab would probably be less straightforward than working directly on vocab + grammar + reading. Especially that some of those joyos don’t appear as often and even if one technically memorizes them, that information will be slowly replaced with whatever else that appears more often.

I’m also kind of wondering whether not having a vocab-leaning flash card system, but still revealing how individual kanji come together to form the reading and meaning of a word would not make sense. Or relying on words that define the core of a kanji reading.

[Tsumabuki_Raito]

@WeebPotato

I have separate themed decks in Anki as well - adjectives, verbs, politics + law, school + customs, etc. I’ve been discussing the importance of themed decks with my girlfriend and from her experience mixing items gives bigger diversity and possibly makes memorization less biased. To me personally the themes help, because starting with a general core concept of a word leads faster to its nuance.

My decks are separated by medium of consumption. I have a video game deck for my Animal Crossing words(mostly formal words), Manga deck(plenty of slang), class textbook(plenty of grammar points) and anime/v-tuber deck.

Personally, my favorite reason for separating them is so that I can focus on deck/medium for that day. If I feel like reading manga, I review my manga deck first and learn 15 new words before jumping back in. Plus, I can look at the cards in the deck for a refresher of what I’ve learned so far since I don’t jump between series of the medium(I read 1 manga series at a time).

My minimum daily goal consists of finishing a single deck for reviews and then consuming the media in the native language. I find that reinforcing ideas and understanding the context of when certain words are to be used to be more important than learning new words and reviewing words with little or context for the day.

@WeebPotato

Contrary, if I put words into wrong decks, I had trouble figuring them out later.

This is especially true with onomatopoeia. No radicals inside a Kanji, very short and usually repetitive, I need as much context as possible to get them to stick in my head.