ふらいんぐうぃっち Vol. 7 🧹

ch37, p23 – 助かんなくない

What is going on with this verb? Is that a double negative conjugation or what?

Edit: ch37, p23 (2) – まぁでもいい人生っちゃいい人生だった悔いはないかな

What is this っちゃ doing here?

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My understanding is that it is indeed a double negative.

I don’t really know how to convey the sentence properly in English, so I’m looking forward to anyone who can provide extra insight.

I read her lines in that panel as being something like, “Mm, this is bad, huh? (In this situation), won’t I not be saved? Yeah, I won’t be saved. This is bad, this is bad.”

This is pretty much my impression, as well (if we go hyper-literal).

For what it’s worth, the fan-translation of the same part goes like this: “There’s no way I’ll get saved right? Yeah no way I’ll get saved. This is bad, pretty bad.”

Edit: I’ve googled it a bit, and it seems it simply really is a double negation. Looks like this is ungrammatical(?), but started as a fad in the early 90s because of some song and became what they now call 若者言葉。I hope you saw this edit, @ChristopherFritz

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ch38, p40 – 運び屋ともあろう人が

What is this ともあろう part?

ch38, p40 (2) – 地域に貢献してこいって

This こいって part, too? 行く+言う?

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The handbook “All About Particles” by Naoko Chino actually specifically includes 「とも+あろう+noun+が」! It translates it as “of all people (things)”. Both example sentences use 人 as the noun.

This N1 grammar point page says:

This grammar point is often used to show surprise and/or judge some person or group. Ex) “considering someone of this position, they should not…”, “of all people…”, etc…

So, we can a sense of “Why is someone in your position, someone who does the job you do, working a festival stall as a part-time job?”

I’m glad you asked about this, as I didn’t bother looking into it in detail when I read through that part!

I believe こい = 来い (from 来る).

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Chapter 39 - 犬が?草を刈る

2020-10-02T15:00:00Z

  • I’m reading along
  • I’m still reading but haven’t reached this part yet
  • I’m dropping this book

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Sometimes, I think Japanese has a word for everything.

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We certainly don’t have something like this in Engli—

Well, close enough.

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There are plenty of those!

30 アラサー
40 アラフォー
50 アラフィフ
60 アラカン
100 アラハン

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Chapter 40 - 走る薬草

2020-10-09T15:00:00Z

  • I’m reading along
  • I’m still reading but haven’t reached this part yet
  • I’m dropping this book

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Page 88: Little question on くる used here:

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I’m generally fairly familiar with て+いく and て+くる. In the panel before this, Nao says the usual 「行ってくる」, meaning she’s going and will be back.

Is this 勉強してくる the same thing, saying she’s going to study for a test (at Makoto’s place), and then she’ll return (home)? Or does this くる mean something else?

yep it means she’ll go study and then come home!

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Thanks. I had a feeling I was overthinking it, but I wondered, “She just said she was going and coming back. Did she need to say again that she was coming back?”

yep lol natives do that kind of thing when it comes to the ~ていく 〜てくる expressions

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I think she is basically repeating her previous statement and refining it, that’s why she uses the same structure.

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One question please meow~

Page 100

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What does タダイマラ三世 refer to?

Any help is appreciated!

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Halfway down this posting suggests it’s a (bad) word pun on 「ただいま」 and 「ダライ・ラマ3世」.

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While new learners of the Japanese language may struggle with the relative lack of pronouns, I see at least one Japanese high school is putting its students through the other side of it:

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omg I love it

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The title of chapter 39 is “犬が甥の草を刈り” i.e. “The dog cuts the nephew’s grass” – I feel like I’m missing something :thinking:

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I found this: https://kotowaza.jitenon.jp/kotowaza/2611.php

Seems to be derived from the saying おじが甥の草を刈る

目上の者が目下の者のために奔走させられることのたとえ。また、物事の順序が逆なことのたとえ。

When a higher-level person is kept busy for the sake of a lower-level person.

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