# When to restart lessons?
**URL:** https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441
**Category:** WaniKani
**Created:** [May 17, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441 "2021-05-17T11:56:25Z")
**Posts on this page:** 11
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### Author:  [@Cesare](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Cesare)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 11:56am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/1 "2021-05-17T11:56:25Z")
Life got in the way and I ended up with a lot of backlog.
I worked my through 2000+ reviews and have been steadily tackling the incoming waves of subsequent reviews.
**I have 377 items in Apprentice; 898 in Guru; 121 in Master.**
I obviously stopped doing Lessons some time ago, while I tackled the backlog.
**Any recommendations on when to restart lessons?**
Thanks!!
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### Author:  [@lattepatatte](https://community.wanikani.com/u/lattepatatte)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 11:58am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/2 "2021-05-17T11:58:53Z")
Definitely not before those apprentice numbers are down. 377 is a lot
Many people try to keep their apprentice numbers under 100-150, so you could aim for that (though ideally a bit lower since your new lessons will immediately become new apprentice items)
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### Author:  [@Cesare](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Cesare)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 12:07pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/3 "2021-05-17T12:07:30Z")
That’s what I was thinking, too! Thank you for confirming! 😊
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### Author:  [@herewego](https://community.wanikani.com/u/herewego)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 12:23pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/4 "2021-05-17T12:23:03Z")
I’d say wait to reach 100 Apprentice. 🙂
Let yourself become used to 100 then go higher if you think you can! But don’t overdo it. 😉
Edit: but I realize you’re a higher level than me so my insight isn’t probably that much of an insight haha
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### Author:  [@jerseytom](https://community.wanikani.com/u/jerseytom)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 12:31pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/5 "2021-05-17T12:31:43Z")
What’s worked well for me is getting Apprentice down to 50 or so, then easing back into lessons and aiming for a soft limit of 100, hard limit of 150
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### Author:  [@ekg](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ekg)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/6 "2021-05-17T19:07:49Z")
> [@Cesare](#):
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> Life got in the way and I ended up with a lot of backlog.
Calling @Abstormal, calling @Abstormal do you know any good tips for moving on from a backlog? ^\>^
> [@Cesare](#):
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> I worked my through 2000+ reviews and have been steadily tackling the incoming waves of subsequent reviews.
My first thought is that this will generate a lot of apprentice and guru items as you won’t get most of them right after a time away from WK.
I’d start using some Leech training scrips as they’re geared toward helping you with items you don’t remember. ^^’
Like
> [@\[Userscript\] Leech training](https://community.wanikani.com/t/userscript-leech-training/36978):
>
> The script is here: [Shin WaniKani Leech Trainer](https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/372086-shin-wanikani-leech-trainer) Version 3.0 With the major version bump to 3.0, the script is now using a completely rewritten backend, rather than hitechbunny’s previous one. There may/will be bugs, but I’m pushing on with the rewrite as hosting the old one costs me money, and I wanted to learn some Go. If you upgrade and see an enormous number of leeches, that’s because the information about what you had trained with the old system hasn’t been migrated. Presuming you were at…
and
> [@\[Userscript\] Wanikani Item Inspector](https://community.wanikani.com/t/userscript-wanikani-item-inspector/44564):
>
> warning This is a third-party script/app and is not created by the WaniKani team. By using this, you understand that it can stop working at any time or be discontinued indefinitely. Requirements: [[General Script Installation instructions](https://community.wanikani.com/t/visual-guide-on-how-to-install-a-userscript/12136)] point_left You’ll need a script host plugin like TamperMonkey [[Open Framework Installation](https://community.wanikani.com/t/installing-wanikani-open-framework/28549)] [[Open Framework Additional Filters Installation](https://community.wanikani.com/t/userscript-wanikani-open-framework-additional-filters-recent-lessons-leech-training-related-items-and-more/30512)] [[Self Study Quiz Installation](https://community.wanikani.com/t/userscript-self-study-quiz/13191)] [[Kanji Stroke Order Font](https://www.nihilist.org.uk/Home) ] Download the script here: Descriptio…
They should both help you tackle those Apprentice/Guru item until you’re in a good enough place to tackle new items!
Good luck!
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### Author:  [@Abstormal](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Abstormal)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 7:22pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/7 "2021-05-17T19:22:47Z")
Oh, yeah, my expertise is mucking things up and get these kinds of numbers 🤣 (unironically, truly am XD )
I had a big muck up last year and worked it down down down before even considering going forward. I was below 100, probably even more.
BUT Guru matters!
Right now, due to going too fast in 48-51 while not having the mind for it (too much teflon, nothing sticks -\_- )
I now have 120 apprentice, even though I’ve gone SLOW!
I will not do a single lesson unless apprentice is under 100 (I made an exception for vocab, to get them in circulation shortly after Kanji Guru. 150 is my hard limit, 100 my soft)
I have 17 items in lesson, all kanji, they will stay there till I feel ready!
Apprentice under 100
Guru under 400
Items per day under 100!
What I aim for, and recommend.
Guru falls, and makes apprentice HUGE! Guru are dangerous! XD
I could have just over 100 apprentice, do NO lesson, just to watch it go up to nearly 200 cause of Guru fails O\_o
I should probably get better at using leech training too. I just review things to death XD
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### Author:  [@Cesare](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Cesare)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/8 "2021-05-17T19:44:34Z")
Really appreciate all the advice! I feel like I have an objective and a rough idea of what my limits should be!
Love this community 🥰
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### Author:  [@ekg](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ekg)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/9 "2021-05-17T20:10:04Z")
> [@Abstormal](#):
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> 150 is my hard limit, 100 my soft)
This sounds very sensible to me and is close to what I worked with as well. 170 being not great. And 180! a clear warning sign that it might get rough if you keep on pushing it! 👀
But everything below it probably alright in certain dosages if you don’t have it like that _all_ the time. The fact that my numbers fluctuated was probably helpful for me reaching lv 60.
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### Author:  [@Abstormal](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Abstormal)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/10 "2021-05-17T20:39:53Z")
When I hit 180 I felt like dying XD
But it was probably more so cause they weren’t new items, but falling leeches =P
Fallen leech vs new lesson makes a huge difference in how the numbers feel too.
So many factors play a role. Even how you feel in a certain day. I’ve done 600 reviews in a day and felt great!
Now I feel all burned out at 150 XD
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### Author:  [@system](https://community.wanikani.com/u/system)
#### Post date: [May 17, 2022, 8:40pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/when-to-restart-lessons/51441/11 "2022-05-17T20:40:36Z")
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