Wanikani's lack of improvement

Agree 100%
And with the advancements in AI, Im sure they could use it or employ someone too add visual aids too.
Touch support for writing kanji would be wonderful too.
Using Greasy Fork for everything is annoying, and the best and most useful forks should be added and toggleable

Incidentally, Duolingo is now implementing tons of AI-based features to do their content heavy-lifting. Itā€™s a bit of a slippery slope if no oneā€™s vetting the auto-generated content, but itā€™s one option.

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Enjoy! Please share pics of your garden if you decide to decorate it.

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That does already exist, but I think it might legitimately be considered a competitor with WK, so I donā€™t think I can share it. Iā€™m sure you can google it at your house

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An opinion from the other side.
Wanikani gives me the mnemonics I want. I am making slow but steady progress. Better progress than with Anki alone, at recognising and reading vocab thanks to the focus on individual kanji and radicals. No matter how many times I used Core 2000, I didnā€™t know why there was this or that reading and I was just using intuition to remember and get it wrong most of the time.
The script stuff? Seems like everyone here is a developer. I donā€™t even notice it, Iā€™m here to learn kanji, and it does a fantastic job at helping me do that. I do use an app, but it looks exactly like the website so no idea what features it has over and above the site itself.

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Hi,
Personally I think itā€™s great not having a billion options, and the simplicity of it is great. I use this site on my mobile only and I use it for one thing, to learn kanji. It does itā€™s job perfectly well without mods.

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I donā€™t care for WK not improving. I do think it should support undo and reorder out of the box, and I do think that it should lean more heavily on phono-semantic composition in the mnemonics instead of silly English-based jokes and stories, but I can work around that easily enough. I also think the example sentences are hot garbage, but I see that the newest additions seem to have better sentences too so they seem to be aware of the issue at least.

I do care about WK regressing though. Give me my bloody stat API back. And please donā€™t add more kana vocab before you give us the promised toggle.

Kana vocab notwithstanding I think the contents of the course have improved significantly this year overall. Thereā€™s been a lot of reordering to teach things more progressively and push rarer vocab to higher levels (although some of those words should have been discarded entirely due to being obscure and sometimes confusing IMO). There have even been three or four new and very useful kanji introduced, and a bunch of very common words too!

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I suspect reorder may not have been a consideration in part because the content builds on itself, more like a text book than an Anki vocab deck. The mnemonic for the kanji 車 is ā€œthe radical car and the kanji car are exactly the same,ā€ so choosing to learn the kanji first would obviously throw things off a bit (without more rewrites).

Personally not a fan of undo ā€“ but if undo scripts are allowed, why not just toss a toggle under Danger Zone and call it a day? Or maybe gamify somehow: the Crabigator grants you an undo for every X correct answers to claw back the occasional typo.

The complainers do tend to overlook all the work being done to improve the actual content itself, which to me is way more important than bells and whistle like dark mode.

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Oh Iā€™m not asking for sequence breaking, but simply to be able to start learning radicals as soon as they unlock for instance, or always be able to pick a certain number of kanji a day to learn for instance.

If you want to go fast itā€™s really necessary.

Yeah I agree completely with both these ideas. I actually proposed something a bit different a while back: have undo and other ā€œbonusā€ features unlock after you reach certain level milestone. That could be a fun way to motivate and reward progress while also not overwhelming beginners with too many options. Might be hard to implement well though.

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Yeah, I suspect this fear drove a lot of their design choices, for better or worse (lack of customization options, highly detailed metrics, etc).

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Just throwing my two cents in as well:

I use WK mostly either on my phone (through Tsurukame) and on my work computer, where I canā€™t install scripts, so I use vanilla WK quite a lot and havenā€™t had any real complaints. The lack of an undo button is probably my only issue, because my brain moves too quickly sometimes for my fingers to keep up, and I use Tsurukameā€™s options for different fonts, just to add some spice, but otherwise? Vanilla WK works. It does what itā€™s meant to do. Itā€™s a specialized tool for memorizing kanji, and it doesnā€™t need to be more than it is, imo.

Kana vocab implementation was annoying, but seems to have been pushed aside - time will tell if they deal with it in a better way down the line. Personally, I just want them to add the remaining N1 kanji so it can become the all-in-one kanji tool.

Iā€™ve tried Anki, Iā€™ve tried Renshuu - none of them seem to click for me in the same way that WK does. With Anki I overthink too hard on whether I was really right, whether it was easy or not, etc, and Renshuu justā€¦doesnā€™t appeal to me. It feels clunky and doesnā€™t really feel like a place to learn so much as to practice (which makes sense, given the name). Kitsun felt promising when I did the free trial, but I spent the whole time just attempting to organize the lists and remove the words I already knew, and I wasnā€™t willing to spend that much money for a tool that I donā€™t feel confident using. But WK works, even without most of the customization that people use scripts for, and I really would like to see it focus in on its kanji niche rather than trying to expand and weakening that foundation.

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isnā€™t there a native option in kitsun to remove the kanji and vocab you already learned here on wk via api?

I am thinking about starting it after I finish all vocab from lvl 60 and time to move on from wanikani. I hope it is a close to wk in terms of lessons and reviews.

If there was, I couldnā€™t find it within the two week trial lol

WaniKani Known Kanji & Vocab Filter, instructions are in the entry but if you have questions, feel free to ask.

https://kitsun.io/store/detail/61808f3d9f5f1c5ac0bd9667

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Again, my trial has long since expired, and I didnā€™t get to spend enough time using the tool itself to know if it actually works well for me so lol. Thanks for the link though!

You can ask @neicul if they would grant another trial if you didnā€™t get a chance to try certain features, it may be possible.

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thanks! A soon as I finish vocab for lvl 60 here I will create my trial account and check this right away and see if kitsun methodology sticks with me.

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pretty sure they will let you do another trial.
as long as you arenā€™t abusing the request.

when I tried it originally (geez 4-5 years ago) whatever it was, wasnā€™t really ready and when I decided to seriously use it to escape anki I realized I had no trial. But it had been a year or what not and emailed, asked and got it and thought well this works great for me and signed up for lifetime.

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I think you are confusing the posts, I havenā€™t created an account there yet.

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maybe replied to the wrong one - but in any case there is a trial
hope you like kitsun!

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