A good start, as long as you do something like Genki alongside Bunpro you’d definetly be on the right track. Bunpro does help a lot with all the sentence examples but I’d recommend adding more sentences or finding a place to get more. I personally have this one which I got for next to nothing years ago, I was planning on starting it when I hit WK level 10 and pretty much finished off Genki 1.
i stopped writing for the stupidest reason so imma confess it now and maybe move on.
i never wrote a lot but i did a few kanji everyday in a practice N5 book i printed. everytime, i did the 100 kanji in order, maybe 4/5 of each one then move on to the next. once i got back to the first, i changed the colour of my pen.
one day, i could not choose a new pen colour. i kid you not. this was many months ago and i have not written since.
pretty sure i’ve reached the top of mountain stupid!
anyhow, regarding your kanji shapes, have you read some advice @Jonapedia gave? he gave really good tips on how to arrange the radicals to give a nice, tight looking kanji.
am the same as you, my components are too far away from each other or a bit disproportionate etc… yours are far better than mine though. i know it does not help you but i just wanted to say.
lol … that is a stupid reason but that’s just how it is sometimes. Why not stick to just black and be done with it? It’s the go-to traditional (non) color? Writing is really fun and if you have the time I’d so recommend implementing it into your lessons regimen!
Well, I’m currently facing an additional challenge with handwriting in that I use a graphics tablet I’m not used to and a software that’s completely new to me, so there’s that. Also I just now realized the template I’m using isn’t helpful either: those aren’t square boxes which explains me having trouble with vertical lines and spacing!
The other thing is just my inability to draw a neat, straight, properly curved line. That’s why i prefer writing digitally so i can ctrl+z to my heart’s content until i get it right. That’s a general problem I have in my roman alphabet handwriting as well unfortunately.
yeah i wondered about that but i assumed it was for furigana space on top
i think the solid square with two dotted line divisions is popular for a reason.
pretty sure that’s the vast majority of people. i write neater - i think - with a pen on paper.
i learned the kana on my ipad with robakana and drew them with my fingers. i kinda kept the habit so when i do my lessons, i write the kanji also with my fingers.
goodness, what am i? a toddler?
you’re right, i really need to get some writing practice in. the weirdest part of all this is that it’s prob what attracts me the most about japanese: the writing! i absolutely love the kana and kanji. i think they’re beautiful.
Hahaha. I write every single kanji I learn with my fingers, honestly, and when I want to test my memory and I don’t have paper, I write phrases in the air. It’s fine.
Yeah, I struggle with this to some extent when it comes to longer lines, especially because I like detailed work. When we had art lessons in primary school, I once took the entire lesson to draw just the outline of the neck of a vase because I kept feeling like the curve was wrong.
It does get better with practice though. What I found helped the most was writing with a particular shape and set of principles in mind, and making an effort to direct my strokes where I needed them to go. After a while, you start to gain control.
I vaguely remembered which post that was, so with a bit of searching, I managed to find it:
I definitely won’t claim to have the best handwriting, and I still think that I suffer from writing decent individual kanji without being to produce a page of kanji that go together nicely. (It’s an old problem that my Chinese teacher once mentioned when I asked her what she thought about my handwriting. It got better after I bought a calligraphy course.) However, maybe that’s just by my standards. For what it’s worth, I started formal Japanese lessons this year, and quite recently, after maybe 2-3 months of lessons, my teacher finally said, ‘I just… your characters remind me so much of my grandfather.’ I went, ‘Ah… really? Why?’ She said something about how they were written. I explained that I bought myself a calligraphy course a while back, only to have her tell me her grandfather was a calligraphy teacher. So yeah, I guess it’s decent?
Close. It was a printed course I ordered from China via Taobao. Online courses for these things would actually be pretty cool though, now that you mention it… but I guess the problem with online courses is that they almost always inevitably end up somewhere outside the paywall, which is great for consumers, but not so great for authors. That happens a little less with stuff that’s on paper. I do know of a Japanese calligraphy site, but it’s for brush calligraphy. I guess you could still take a look at Takumi-san’s channel on YouTube though. He has quite a few pen calligraphy videos, even if they’re usually not tutorials.
Anyhow, I suppose I can’t recommend the course I used because it’s in Chinese, and on top of that, it deals with 行書, which is a slightly cursive form, whereas I think most people just want to learn the standard script (楷書) first. If you’re fine with ordering stuff online (because I know there are people who aren’t so comfortable with that), you can try getting a Japanese calligraphy course, I guess? Here’s one I think is pretty good:
I posted a few other links to courses on that page, but I sincerely think this one is the best if your goal is learning how to write well. It’s meant for primary school students, so I don’t think the Japanese inside is particularly difficult either, and it might even be good reading practice.
Even when I hold my graphic tablet pen like a brush I get way more beautiful and artistically pleasing symbols but that is unfortunately not really my main goal. I’d like to be able to just write a note with pen and paper that doesn’t look like a toddler worte it So, actually … maybe I should just write on paper again with a normal ballpoint pen instead of whatever I’m doing above; although that’s also fun. Hm
Earlier in the thread I mentioned scheduling and pacing myself … Welp, I’m still in speedrun territory However, with having the lessons spaced out over a few days I naturally don’t have these gigantic review waves consisting of all new items. That’s nice. Also my workload isn’t yet at maximum, because I still don’t have any burn reviews, which will change in a few days though and my solution for then is:
Why, scripts of course! Specifically, I’ve set up Lesson Lock with an Expected Daily Reviews Score limit of 200 and I’ll just have to see how that goes.
Just a random thought: from what I’ve seen of Japanese brush calligraphy videos so far, most Japanese calligraphers hold brushes almost the same way they hold pens, especially small brushes. In Chinese calligraphy, the brush hold is different, and seems to be meant to keep the brush vertical all the time. So in a sense, brush calligraphy doesn’t have to be entirely detached from pen calligraphy.
As for how ‘mature’ characters look, I think it’s more a matter of how controlled they appear? Part of that comes from writing fluidly thanks to practice and experience, but it’s also a matter of things like proportions and angles. I really think that just looking at writing that you like and trying to imitate it can help, though it’s usually helpful to know how strokes are produced in order to do that, because that way, you write, as opposed to treating characters as paintings or colouring diagrams that you need to copy.
Since I reset a while back, Wanikani is probably the easier part; grammar will be hell, though.
Last year, in the Netherlands JLPT was only for students from the university due to covid, I really hope this year they’ll open it up again.
sounds wise. i defo started burning out around 32 - 33 and pushing on to 40 was a mistake. i should have just self studied instead. not regretting the reset at all but taking a moment would also have been a good solution.
i reset my bunpro and am only planning to do 9 lessons a week max. if i can do the test in july, i might try N4 but i might just take it easy and N5 though N5 has so much kana it actually puts me off.