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#833

That’s assuming writing style is completely homogenous across all Japanese-speaking people and completely consistent individually. I don’t think there’s a single sensible person who would suggest that could be true. Even my writing style shifts on a day-to-day basis.

Anyway, you seem to have come back to the original question — that these synonyms should be added to WK. I daresay if the above article and dictionary example sentences are the extent of your corpus research it’s not going to be terribly convincing. A single writer’s style cannot be used to form opinions about the entire Japanese language, just as how spoken Indian English cannot be used to form opinions about spoken AAVE.

#834

And the extent of your research is a screenshot of an online dictionary with the word “usually”. I rest my case.

#835

Little or bad research is on par with no research. I never claimed to understand the difference between the two words, only the vague process by which the question of differentiation should be determined, so you’re just misrepresenting my arguments.

#836

Then you agree that the synonyms should be added?

#837

What I’m trying to say is I think the extent of the research you’ve performed is not sufficient to determine whether or not those two terms should be differentiated.

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#838

It’s not research. I have never claimed I did research. I’m not an antivaxxer.

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#839

Then what do you base your suggestion that synonyms should be added on? I’m using a looser definition of “research” here, but it should be fairly obvious what I’m referring to. Whatever you want to call it, you’ve clearly had experience in Japanese regarding these words, otherwise you wouldn’t have proposed the unification of the two words.

And I don’t get the antivaxxer bit. By what tenuous link are you relating my words to that?

#840

I have shared my experience regarding those words through the two articles I cited, but you rejected that offhand. So I’m not going to cite other articles, that’s just a waste of my time and your time.

#841

That’s because they’re not relevant to the question that’s being asked here, which pertains to the utility and pragmatics of differentiating the two terms in the program; the articles you cite aren’t wrong, they just don’t constitute evidence, simply by the nature of the question being asked.

This is of course the realm of corpus studies, the best approximation to which I can muster is a reference to a dictionary. You may well be able to do better. I do not know.

Do you think that citing two individual articles could already constitute a corpus analysis?

#842

I’m not doing corpus analysis. I’m just presenting evidence that those two kanji are in many instances interchangeable.

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#843

Which is precisely the reason it’s not very useful. Your evidence that the verb can be respelled without greatly changing the implied meaning drawn from multiple sources, high-quality as it may be, cannot by itself be used to answer the question at hand.

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#844

If every changes and additions to WK necessitates corpus analysis, we don’t have to bother because by the time corpus analysis for over 9000+ items is done, we’ll all be under water due to increasing sea level.

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#845

Whoever said anything about doing corpus analysis for all the items that wanikani teaches? I don’t see anyone disputing the glosses of the likes of 手袋, 憂鬱, or 猶予. Besides, I’m fairly certain they’re spending our subscription money on something, and I’d prefer that thing to be an improvement of the wanikani experience by doing thorough research prior to making any changes to the program over them doing diddly squat.

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#846

If that’s true then they should not do dang diddly squat and add the synonyms to those items 痛める and 傷める.

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#847

they’re probably too busy ‘working’ on EtoEto to do that.

In all seriousness, whether or not they do decide to add those synonyms for that pair of words (and in general) I do hope they would do proper research and deliberation beforehand.

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#848

That goes without saying, and I also hope they don’t just dismiss real-world examples because it’s “just one article”

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#849

Are you legitimately claiming that having a single set of references is sufficient to determine the answer to that question when looking through collocation databases and reference dictionaries — resources designed explicitly with those goals in mind — is at the same time much more efficient and accurate?

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#850

I am legitimately claiming that just the act of adding one synonym to a WK item should not trigger the whole DEFCON 1 of corpus analysis and deep research into the quantum physics of dark matter.

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#851

It seems you’re saying that the quality of content on this platform is not important enough to warrant any further investigation past cursory searches on Google when updates are proposed.

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#852

You two know y’can add your own synonoms, right?

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