Visual Novel Book Club // Next: 徒花異譚

Haha feels like, yes :slight_smile: Maybe you’d need to update the template to have sections for “use this to gauge reading difficulty” and “use this to gauge beauty of pictures” :wink:

(Speaking of which, your template still says “How much effort would you need to read this book?” - maybe you’d want to change that as well?)

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:angry: I changed a lot of them! But there’s always one more than you find! Thanks, will update

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I still have the game installed from when I played it before, so I went ahead and took some screenshots if you want to use them in your post to show off difficulty

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While scrolling through it, seemed like most of the sentences were relatively short and the game is like 99% dialogue from what I remember, not much descriptive stuff at all so it should be on the easier side.

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W.I.L.D.

At least if those aren’t from all over the game but only from pretty early. :joy:

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The game is very wild haha but yes, all the screenshots are within the beginning of the game. I just skipped to a few scenes in the beginning to get some different ones, I’d say they all happen within the first hour of the game (assuming fluent reading speed).

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Even from those few screenshots I can tell why you’d compared it to FLCL and Excel Saga. I’ll probably be getting this one no matter if it gets picked or not because it seems crazy in a good way (I guess that is what zany is, isn’t it?). Also the art looks gorgeous/fantastic (not sure all of it can be called gorgeous :joy:).

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Done, thank you so much. We’ll figure this out together (other people will figure it out and tell me)!

I think I’m more sold on my own pick after seeing the alligator man and whatnot :grin:

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Yes! Someone nominated it. :innocent:

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Not sure yet if I’m going to participate here (as my Japanese is… well I’d say below intermediate) but I love the idea!
I’ve played a ton of VNs - in English, not Japanese and really cherish the medium
… also I’m kinda heart broken to find out that Amnesia would be recommended as a first Japanese read - and I even have it on steam! but my version doesn’t have Japanese text, only voice :frowning: very sad :frowning:
Nonetheless thanks to this thread I found some resources and finally understood how to use VNs for Japanese studies which is amazing in itself - thanks guys! :slight_smile:

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Well, if you already bought it… :pirate_flag:

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well yeah
I mean… that would’ve been perfect
I’ve already played through the majority of this game, years ago, too ^^
But for some reason they didn’t include the Japanese Interface and Subtitles in this version :frowning:
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I’m currently playing a JRPG with Japanese audio and English text. But then I didn’t get it to practice Japanese (I think it has Japanese text too). It is really nice listening practice though, where I can instantly check my understanding. So can still be useful for studying, but for listening comprehension. (Obviously I have to look away from the text box until the voiced lines finishes. ^^ )

But it is kinda sad when they don’t make the Japanese text available too. :frowning:

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Is it on Steam? I’ve heard that sometimes you can get the Japanese version if you set your account to Japanese

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I tried the demo also. I feel I have a little problem with vocabularies, and harder if the sentence isn’t read.

Another difficulty is the shear length just to finish the prologue, and getting to the first selection of choices.

However, it might not be too difficult if I don’t chew too many at once. (Saving is always available.)

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I am not exactly sure how difficult are other games, based on few screenshots…

About Steam (+Proton) on Linux

Apparently, it can’t play this demo on Linux. And, Proton needs to be enabled to download at all.

Also, I can’t find it in Google Play Store on my phone.

I think it is designed to be impossible in VirtualBox and such, due to PlayDRM.

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I did read a bit of Atri in English back when it was first released a few years ago and I kind of thought this would be a difficulty. Based on the themes in the game, it seemed like it would have a lot of vocabulary that would be considered more obscure and that seems to be the general consensus from what I’ve heard from people who have played the game in jp. The game does have dual-language option if people get completely stumped but the TL kind of freestyles it so I think it’d be better not to check in my opinion. We have the club to ask questions anyways :slightly_smiling_face:

With that said, I don’t really mind some harder vocabulary, especially with being able to texthook it and look it up instantly with yomichan, its not really an issue to me. Plus if you have an interest in post-apocalyptic sci-fi stories, then some of the vocab should be helpful for future readings.

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Actually, imo, words might not be that obscure, although a little on the harder side. Kanji also, sometimes without Furigana. Like, (かんぬき) or 埒があかない.

Though, of course, many words are attached to the themes, like medical, marine, or robotic. So, unseen outside the specific themes…

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Yeah that’s pretty much where I land. It’s a little hard to boil down vocabulary in a specific domain into being a pro or con because it depends both on what the individual wants to get out of their reading and how they go about doing it. In general I think the VNs recommended so far look like they’re on the fairly gentle side in grammar complexity and whatnot so it’s like… if their vocab DOES land in an area of interest for someone, there’s basically no better way to get started learning those words.

Super pleased to hear that! If you have any troubles setting all that up, let me know. Shame to hear about the VN you mentioned – a whole lot of games and VNs split into non-Japanese versions for some reason, which gets so inconvenient.

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I found this trial one in Google Play Store (for Android smartphone) – https://ruriirodays.com/. I still find ATRI not available in my region, even with Google account set to Japanese region (or I don’t know how).

Even if my region isn’t Japan, only Japanese version is available anyway.

The language isn’t too difficult (or at least, I expect myself to know the words, but not yet). Audio and playback dialogue too (although MC doesn’t speak). I think it is good so far, but it is too early for me to give a real assessment.

In any case, Android smartphone is going to be far most available to me. I do take my laptop everywhere, but it is primarily Linux, though I can restart the laptop to boot into Windows. My Android tablet is as available as my laptop. I have a Windows PC at my dorm, but it is immovable…

Anyhow, I am new to VN, so I might have wrong expectations (e.g. on how fast I can make decisions, rather than following along). Also, not much to compare with, as I have no experience.

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So this is like a VN read along? I’m totally down, have played some stuff before. Most recently the Muv-Luv series, but in English only. I still have to figure out how to do texthooking :disappointed_relieved:

Planetarian is one that could work. Only concern I have is the somewhat disturbing content? But it’s pretty mild. Other than that, it’s very accessible, cheap, and short.

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Yeah! Sorry I kinda skipped explaining how this would actually work on the basis of there being other book clubs on Wanikani, but we’re going for vote for a VN to read and there’ll be a thread (or threads? we’ll see how we’re structuring things when we get our choice…) to discuss what we think of the content, or to ask questions about the Japanese itself. In my experience these book clubs have always been extremely helpful for making reading more accessible, so it’s my goal to make this club like that, too.

A lot of the main WK clubs will split up the books/manga into chunks with a weekly reading schedule, but at least for our first VN, we’re just going to have an end date and let people check in as they want (with heavy use of spoiler tags of course). Visual novels not being easy to flip through the way a book is make close scheduling more of a challenge, but we might try it in the future.

And yeah, Planetarian totally fits the criteria! Feel free to make a nomination post for that if you’d like. It came up briefly before and the only concern was that it’s possibly a step up in reading difficulty from most of what’s been recommended so far, but that’s just going to be something for people to judge when they vote.

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