Darcinon said...
ShotgunLagoon said...
Darcinon said...
ShotgunLagoon said...
fair warning, this may interfere with the SRS.
I don't think this is a problem. SRS is great for getting loads of information into long term memory and keeping it there, but it's not so great for attaining the unconscious mastery necessary for fluency. However, I also think that excessive use of this script wouldn't be as helpful as reading/listening to native materials, improving grammar, and/or using another SRS for vocab not on WK.
well what you're basically doing is reviewing material in the middle of the SRS interval, right? i'm pretty sure that with SRS, reviewing material in between actual reviews is a no-no. like, it's ok to encounter it in context and stuff while you're reading or studying grammar, but looking over the items and testing yourself on them before you're supposed to review them interferes with the SRS.
I think we mostly agree, but I'm going to keep arguing :D
Personally, I think quizzing between reviews is still mostly a no-no, especially for a huge undertaking like learning a language. But why? It's the same reason that WaniKani cares about recognition over recall and doesn't recommend handwriting practice - because that time could be spent doing something else. That's also the reason for using flash-bulb-memory-inducing mnemonics and radicals - so we learn more in less time. But "interfering with the SRS" makes it sound like it's a problem to know something better than the SRS intervals allow. I just don't want people to avoid immersion techniques or extensive reading because of that.
I think that SRS theory is more than just "don't spend time on things you already know." From what I've read, SRS is based on two ideas:
1. Memory is strengthened through active recall (quizzing) more than through passive review. That is, quizzing is not merely for the purpose of assessment, but the act of recall itself strengthens memory.
The quiz itself is the lesson. Because of this point, I disagree with someone else who compared WK with not studying for a final. Most exams (at least, final exams) in a traditional classroom are merely assessment, rather than themselves being a tool for developing long term memory.
2. Recalling a memory immediately before you're about to forget strengthens memory more than recalling a memory that is fresh. That is, the struggle associated with trying to remember is good for long term memory. You *want* this struggle to occur. Hence, the long SRS intervals.
With that said, I don't think independent reviewing after a review session will hurt the SRS, as long as you maintain a discipline of only reviewing apprentice items, or items on your level and perhaps one level below. After an item is guru'ed, then extra review probably will interfere with the spacing effect (that is, point 2 above). Of course, extra reviews for apprentice items will improve on point 1, so I think that limiting reviews to freshly introduced items is a good way to improve point 1 without compromising point 2.