# Usage of とand の in a sentence

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**Created:** [September 14, 2018, 4:42am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/usage-of-%E3%81%A8and-%E3%81%AE-in-a-sentence/32807 "2018-09-14T04:42:38Z")\
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Hi. I would like to ask when and how とand の are used in a sentence? Thank you.

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They’ve both got several uses. The main use you’ll probably see, though is と means “and”, but is only used for lists of nouns, while の indicates ownership, same as 's in English.

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Thank you 😄

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と Has a lot of uses 🙂  
It’s first use is to list a complete list of nouns:  
車とバイクがほしい —\> I want a car **and** bike  
It is used to quote things. Put と After a direct or indirect quote. This is also used for thoughts  
「車とバイクがほしい」と言った —\> They **said** “I want a car and bike”  
It can be used to mean “with”  
友達と公園に行った —\> I went with my friend to the park  
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think in Kansai dialect, adding と to the end of a sentence can ask a question in casual conversation.  
眠らないと？ —\> Can’t sleep?  
A lot of onomatopoeia use the と particle  
It can mean “If”  
ドアを開けると寒くなるよ —\> **If** you open the door, it will get cold

の Also has a couple meanings  
It can be possesive:  
私の本 —\> **My** book  
私の本のページ —\> **My** book’s page  
It can be used to ask for an explanation (I think it can also be sort of feminine)  
学校に行かなかったの? —\> You didn’t go to school (why?)  
It can also be used to GIVE the explanation  
It is used to describe placement of objects:  
机の上に… —\> On top of the table… (I.e., On the table’s above/top)

That’s all I can think of at the moment 🙂  
This website might help:  
[http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/no\_particle](http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/no_particle)  
[Listing multiple nouns – Learn Japanese](http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete/multiple_nouns)

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Thanks a lot 😄😄 I will check out the links you have given.

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More uses of の

**It can replace が in a relative clause.**

背が高い人がいる。 (There is a tall person)  
This is grammatical, but Japanese people find が’s piling up on each other to be grating on the ears.

背 **の** 高い人がいる。  
This sentence has the exact same meaning, and the の is doing exactly the same role as が was, but now you don’t have two が’s. You cannot replace the second が with の, because that is the main clause, not a relative clause.

**It can make verbs and adjectives into nouns.**

ゴルフが好きです (I like golf)  
ゴルフをする **の** が好きです (I like to play golf)

面白い映画を見た (I saw an interesting movie)  
面白い **の** を見た (I saw an interesting one) This one requires some context before it to make sense.

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Related to ownership/possession, “ＸのＹ” can mean “X(adjective) Y”. For example, “弟のDavid” is more likely to mean “my younger brother David” than “brother’s David”. Although there’s a class of words where you have to use “な” instead.

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