# Things WaniKani doesn't teach you #2: the ほつ reading of 発 **URL:** \ **Category:** Japanese Language\ **Created:** [January 26, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841 "2019-01-26T14:16:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leebo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/leebo/32/439476_2.png) [@Leebo](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Leebo)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/1 "2019-01-26T14:16:42Z")
発 is a level 9 kanji, and there are 20 vocab words on the site that use it, but none of them use the ほつ reading. ほつ is an older reading for the kanji than はつ, so words that were imported to Japan initially came over with this reading. Later words got the はつ reading. Since it’s older, it also appears in some Buddhist terminology I won’t bother going into here. 発作 (ほっさ) - fit, spasm, seizure てんかん発作 (てんかんほっさ) - epileptic seizure 心臓発作 (しんぞうほっさ) - heart attack [the more medical-sounding word is 心筋梗塞 しんきんこうそく, like myocardial infarction] 発足 (ほっそく) starting, inauguration, launch, establishment 発端 (ほったん) - origin, genesis, opening, start 発起 (ほっき) - promotion, proposal 発起人 (ほっきにん) - originator, promoter 一念発起 (いちねんほっき) - being resolved to (do something); having a wholehearted intention​ #1 - [空 (そら) as a prefix](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-1-%E7%A9%BA-%E3%81%9D%E3%82%89-as-a-prefix/34767) ---
**Author:** ![Saida](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/saida/32/348936_2.png) [@Saida](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Saida)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/2 "2019-01-26T14:49:23Z")
面白いです！Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us! ---
**Author:** ![Naman2008](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/naman2008/32/229720_2.png) [@Naman2008](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Naman2008)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/3 "2019-01-27T07:23:23Z")
ありがとうございます! It is very helpful to me. ---
**Author:** ![charlesfm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/charlesfm/32/77875_2.png) [@charlesfm](https://community.wanikani.com/u/charlesfm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/4 "2019-01-28T02:17:27Z")
I feel like 物 as a prefix would be a good addition to this series. ---
**Author:** ![Vanilla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/vanilla/32/521468_2.png) [@Vanilla](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Vanilla)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/5 "2019-01-28T02:40:53Z")
Is this common? I’ve only seen it in 物凄い and 物憂げ really, but are there others I just haven’t come across? ---
**Author:** ![swagspamswag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/swagspamswag/32/168656_2.png) [@swagspamswag](https://community.wanikani.com/u/swagspamswag)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:07am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/6 "2019-01-28T03:07:57Z")
Love you @Leebo 💝 ---
**Author:** ![seanblue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/seanblue/32/579844_2.png) [@seanblue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/seanblue)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/7 "2019-01-28T03:10:28Z")
Does 物足りない count? ---
**Author:** ![charlesfm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/charlesfm/32/77875_2.png) [@charlesfm](https://community.wanikani.com/u/charlesfm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/8 "2019-01-28T03:11:25Z")
Here are some more examples you’ve probably heard: 物音 物語 物足りない 物真似 And some less common ones. 物寂しい 物悲しい 物哀れ 物忘れ 物知り 物腰 物静か 物分かり 物思い The connection isn’t obvious at first but the prefix 物 gives the word a sense of vagueness. The Japanese word なんとなく is used in many JP sources to describe this feeling. 物音: sounds coming from somewhere 物語: talking about something 物足りない: the feeling that something isn’t enough > [@seanblue](#): > > Does 物足りない count? Definitely 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Vanilla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/vanilla/32/521468_2.png) [@Vanilla](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Vanilla)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:13am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/9 "2019-01-28T03:13:24Z")
Huh, forgot about 物語. Thats pretty funny actually. But does 物音 count? Wouldn’t have thought of that as the 物 prefix. 物腰 and 物分かり too. 物分かり makes sense with your explanation but I wouldnt have guessed for 物腰 EDIT: Just read your last part. ---
**Author:** ![tmninja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/tmninja/32/630078_2.png) [@tmninja](https://community.wanikani.com/u/tmninja)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:31am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/10 "2019-01-28T03:31:12Z")
I can now sleep happily with the knowledge of the Japanese word for “epileptic seizure” under my belt. Thanks Leebo 👍🏽 ---
**Author:** ![charlesfm](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/charlesfm/32/77875_2.png) [@charlesfm](https://community.wanikani.com/u/charlesfm)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/11 "2019-01-28T03:35:39Z")
My best guess for 物腰 is that 腰 (ごし) means attitude ([according to jisho](https://jisho.org/search/%E8%85%B0%20%E3%81%94%E3%81%97)) and 物腰 is a more broad version of that (manner, demeanor). While 腰 applies to only one situation, 物腰 is a personality trait. Just to clear up any ambiguity, what I mean by “vague” in all these explanations is that the source is unknown, unspecified, or broad. ---
**Author:** ![ryantpayton](https://cdck-file-uploads-global.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/wanikanicommunity/original/3X/f/d/fd4c154120954695f788402f3bcf4e616499bc2d.png) [@ryantpayton](https://community.wanikani.com/u/ryantpayton)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/things-wanikani-doesnt-teach-you-2-the-%E3%81%BB%E3%81%A4-reading-of-%E7%99%BA/34841/12 "2019-01-31T19:02:10Z")
I really like how you included your first post in this post. Are you going to keep doing that? Keeping a list of “Things WaniKani doesnt teach you”. I really like this also, keep up the great work! 頑張って！ ---
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