# The Return of Wanikani 四字熟語 **URL:** \ **Category:** WaniKani\ **Created:** [November 28, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406 "2020-11-28T10:30:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:30am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/1 "2020-11-28T10:30:36Z")
I will start with links for the printable finished versions: [Letter paper](https://github.com/RoseWagsBlue/Wanikani-Yojijukogo/raw/main/WKyojiFold3.pdf) [A4 paper](https://github.com/RoseWagsBlue/Wanikani-Yojijukogo/raw/main/WKyojiFold3A4.pdf) If you are in the USA, you probably have letter paper (8.5x11). Most of the rest of the world uses A4. A while ago, there was a thread where people wrote \<四字熟語\>[よじじゅくご] about Wanikani. [https://community.wanikani.com/t/wanikani-yojijukugo-literally-yojijukugo-about-wanikani/36828](https://community.wanikani.com/t/wanikani-yojijukugo-literally-yojijukugo-about-wanikani/36828) I usually do some little typesetting projects in the wintertime, so I thought that I would make these into a book. For now, I have put all of the yoji in the the other thread into a PDF format. Ultimately, they will be sorted and added to. When it is all finished, it will be produced in a format that can be folded and stapled into a little booklet. I have already been messing with this for some time. I made code for automatically inserting blank pages, and I struggled once again with rotating “ichis”. The page format looks like this: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/original/4X/b/c/8/bc8c5870ce0792c39251ea62f40b1ead63f49d84.png) You can see there that I still have work to do. If anyone would like to write more 四字熟語 about Wanikani, do so down below! Here is the PDF for the book so far: > **[WKyoji.pdf](https://github.com/RoseWagsBlue/Wanikani-Yojijukogo/blob/main/WKyoji.pdf)** also: > [@Sutra Styles](https://community.wanikani.com/t/sutra-styles/47303): > > I’ve been messing about with typesetting Buddhist Sutras in Japanese, inspired by @RoseWagsBlue and her scholarly and typesetting projects. What started as a fix for one file has become a collection of LaTeX code that makes typesetting your favorite Japanese text easy. I hope so anyway. Here is the project in its latest stage. I’d love feedback, bug reports, comments, etc. ジョージ > [@Heart Sutra Traceable With Hiragana and Meanings](https://community.wanikani.com/t/heart-sutra-traceable-with-hiragana-and-meanings/45350): > > The Heart Sutra is heard and seen everywhere in Japan. Some of the kanji however, are a little archaic. Also, as I have found, the text is full of long strings of kanji used purely phonetically to represent Buddhist names and terms from Sanskrit. Also, it would appear that this whole text is actually Chinese, from around the year 600. This is my attempt to decipher and memorize the whole thing. Once that is completed, I will post a nice PDF where you can trace the Sutra as you do at many t… ---
**Author:** ![RedOliveBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/redoliveblue/32/284475_2.png) [@RedOliveBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RedOliveBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:37am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/2 "2020-11-28T10:37:33Z")
Hello, idiot here, What is a yojijukugo? I looked through the thread and I liked them but I’m not sure what they are/how to make them 🙂 Also I love your little book idea!! ---
**Author:** ![zyoeru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/zyoeru/32/359072_2.png) [@zyoeru](https://community.wanikani.com/u/zyoeru)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/3 "2020-11-28T10:40:25Z")
> **[Yojijukugo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojijukugo)** > > Yojijukugo (Japanese: 四字熟語) is a Japanese lexeme consisting of four kanji (Chinese characters). English translations of yojijukugo include "four-character compound", "four-character idiom", "four-character idiomatic phrase", and "four-character idiomatic compound". It is equivalent to the Chinese chengyu. > Yojijukugo in the broad sense refers to Japanese compound words consisting of four kanji characters. In the narrow or strict sense, however, the term refers only to four-kanji compounds that ha... ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:40am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/4 "2020-11-28T10:40:32Z")
I meant to put an introduction to yojijukugo up top. They are one of the most wonderful things about the Japanese language. Literally they “four character idiomatic expressions.” Four characters packed with meaning. Often they reference folk parables. To me, they are almost like Haiku. > **[Yojijukugo: The Four Kanji That Make One Idiom](https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/yojijukugo-idioms/)** > > idioms that follow the four kanji pattern are known as yojijukugo (四字熟語), aka "four-character compounds" or "four-character idioms." What’s interesting to me here are the constraints. ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:43am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/5 "2020-11-28T10:43:34Z")
I have been obsessed with books and bookbinding since I was a child. I just love how the pages of a book are folded up into a signature are cut and bound. I love the puzzle of where the pages are placed and how they are oriented so they come out as a book. ---
**Author:** ![RedOliveBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/redoliveblue/32/284475_2.png) [@RedOliveBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RedOliveBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:46am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/6 "2020-11-28T10:46:28Z")
Yes yes it’s such a thoughtful and delicate craft! I love watching people make them because I’m not very good at doing it myself hahah Have you made lots? Have you made ones with fancy covers and things and pretty colours and ooo I’m excited ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/7 "2020-11-28T10:48:28Z")
> [@One yojijukugo (four character idiomatic compound) for each level](https://community.wanikani.com/t/one-yojijukugo-four-character-idiomatic-compound-for-each-level/32878/78): > > My final book: The front cover is chopped down from a watercolor painted a few years ago. (It is actually a group of row homes on the side of the mountain that I can see from sitting on my roof) The end papers are just some painting scraps from in my watercolor box. (They are actually paintings of circuit boards) I am so happy with this! I haven’t made a book in a few years, and I remember now what I like so much about it. I am going t… I have not made lots. This is probably the nicest book I ever made. ---
**Author:** ![zyoeru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/zyoeru/32/359072_2.png) [@zyoeru](https://community.wanikani.com/u/zyoeru)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:55am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/8 "2020-11-28T10:55:54Z")
My contribution: 桃物男瞬 とうぶつだんしゅん Pink to make the boys wink. ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:57am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/9 "2020-11-28T10:57:29Z")
yes, but they are supposed to be yoji about Wanikani … ---
**Author:** ![RedOliveBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/redoliveblue/32/284475_2.png) [@RedOliveBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RedOliveBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/10 "2020-11-28T10:58:27Z")
I love iiiit 😍 😍 The painting is so beautiful and the book is so neat and well put together! Now I want to make my own! \>:) ---
**Author:** ![zyoeru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/zyoeru/32/359072_2.png) [@zyoeru](https://community.wanikani.com/u/zyoeru)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 10:58am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/11 "2020-11-28T10:58:28Z")
鰐蟹男瞬 then… ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:03am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/12 "2020-11-28T11:03:46Z")
You just need to write a few yojijukugo, and they can be added to the book. All you need to bind is a needle and thread and glue for the end papers. If you spend a little time reading yoji, you can get a feel for the common patterns and sounds. Then you can write them! ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/13 "2020-11-28T11:05:21Z")
That’s cute. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RedOliveBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/redoliveblue/32/284475_2.png) [@RedOliveBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RedOliveBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/14 "2020-11-28T11:05:56Z")
You severely overestimate my writing ability in Japanese, but maybe I will give it a goo00oOoo… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:08am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/15 "2020-11-28T11:08:38Z")
The thing is that is kanji based, not Japanese based. So think of a thing you want to say, and look up some kanji that relate to it, then play with the 音読み. There is no right and wrong. Pure poetry. I really have sunk three days into getting the “ichis” rotated in that PDF. In Japanese, “一” gets rotated in vertical text. Every new document is a struggle. ---
**Author:** ![RedOliveBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/redoliveblue/32/284475_2.png) [@RedOliveBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RedOliveBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:13am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/16 "2020-11-28T11:13:02Z")
Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but could you just type | and pretend it’s an ichi? 😂 Orr… rotate the ichi in a different program, save it as a picture, and copy the picture in? These might not be solutions but they’re how my dumb bum would do it 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:17am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/17 "2020-11-28T11:17:05Z")
> [@RoseWagsBlue](#): > > In Japanese, “一” gets rotated in vertical text. Only ー does, surely. Not 一. ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:22am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/18 "2020-11-28T11:22:17Z")
Well, not if you are laying down because you just got thrown out of the 土俵. @RedOliveBlue You entirely misunderestimate the purity of my stubbornness. Part of the goal is to make a reproducible system, where you just plunk in 四字熟語 and a book comes out the other end. I actually have the process down now, but I am not entirely satisfied with the spacing of the kanji, and how the ichis turned out, encroaching on the space of other kanji. ---
**Author:** ![Belthazar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/belthazar/32/4469_2.png) [@Belthazar](https://community.wanikani.com/u/Belthazar)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:32am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/19 "2020-11-28T11:32:23Z")
> [@RoseWagsBlue](#): > > Well, not if you are laying down because you just got thrown out of the 土俵. … Come again? ---
**Author:** ![RoseWagsBlue](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/wanikanicommunity/user_avatar/community.wanikani.com/rosewagsblue/32/713093_2.png) [@RoseWagsBlue](https://community.wanikani.com/u/RoseWagsBlue)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406/20 "2020-11-28T11:33:37Z")
Then the 一 is sideways, because you are laying on the ground, because 白鳳 just threw you out. [Next page](https://community.wanikani.com/t/the-return-of-wanikani-%E5%9B%9B%E5%AD%97%E7%86%9F%E8%AA%9E/47406.md?page=2)