The Intermediate Manga Club (IMC) // Now reading: 紡ぐ乙女と大正の月 // Next: 鋼の錬金術師 (8月3日)

Welcome to the Intermediate Manga Club!


Now reading: 紡ぐ乙女と大正の月 1

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Reading next: 鋼の錬金術師 1 (August 3rd)

:spiral_calendar: Save the date(s):
June 8th - book#2, 紡ぐ乙女と大正の月 1 starts
August 3rd - book#3, 鋼の錬金術師 1 starts
July 27th - poll for book#4
September 14th - book#4 starts


In this club we choose a Japanese manga together and read it following a weekly schedule. We help each other with grammar, compile a vocabulary sheet together and discuss the story.

As Wanikani community currently is:

  • the ABBC reads mostly manga / books in the levels 20 or below (N5/N4)
  • the BBC reads mostly manga in the levels 20 to 27 (N4/N3)
  • the IBC reads mostly books in the levels 27 to 30+ (N3/N2)
  • the ABC reads mostly books in the levels 30+, or IBC books but faster (N2/N1)

(this is according to the Natively levels)

So this Book Club is for the manga that are level 27+, too hard for the BBC, but will (probably) never be picked by the other clubs.

Our picks vary in difficulty. If you are already reading with the Beginner Book Club, maybe you can handle this. The best way to judge is to look at the sample pages for a particular pick. Remember that it will be easier with everyone’s help though!

If you’re interested, just grab a copy of the upcoming book (we vote ~6 weeks before finishing the current pick) and join in! You are always welcome to ask new questions in the threads of any of our previous picks as well :slightly_smiling_face:

Proposed Books

Feel free to nominate something you’d like to read using the template below! Suggestions must be appropriate though; please read the guidelines.
There will be a specific call for nomination shortly before the vote for the next book happen, but you can nominate anytime.

Guidelines for Proposing Books
  1. Nominate something you are ready to read
    We want to maintain lively discussion throughout the club, so don’t nominate something you yourself will struggle to participate in. You also can’t rely on there being more advanced learners available to help with all questions.

  2. The Book needs to be a manga of Intermediate / Advanced level
    That would be a book rated roughly more than 26/27 on Natively. Other book clubs can cover the other books.

  3. Do not nominate anything clearly NSFW
    We try to maintain a wide appeal, so don’t knowingly nominate anything associated with fanservice or gore.

  4. Do not nominate anything difficult to procure
    Picks must be readily available at online stores. If no eBook version is available please consider whether it’s still worth nominating and list this clearly as a “con”.

  5. Well-known works are more desirable
    Guidance only: the reader pool will be much larger for well-known works, and background knowledge of the premise will make it easier for people to understand the content and help each other out.

  6. Books that fail to score at least 15% on the last three round of voting will get automatically removed.
    This approach ensures that the list remains reasonably small and dynamic.
    You may nominate a removed book again, but please think about it before hand. Do you think there’s reasonable interest for that nomination?

Proposal Template

Copy this template into a new post when making a nomination.

For page samples, you can either take photos of your own copy (try to make the three additional pages ‘representative’ if possible), grab photos from the internet, or use eBook previews from e.g. Amazon, Kobo, BookWalker. Make sure the text is legible!

# Insert Title Here

Natively: [Level ??](Natively Url)

(cover pic here)

## Summary
Insert summary here, taken from wherever - Wikipedia, Amazon, etc. Improve the description if you would like / feel it necessary.

## Availability
Insert purchase links for physical: preferably Amazon JP and CD Japan.
Insert purchase links for digital: preferably Kindle, Kobo and BookWalker. Mention if an eBook is not available at all and list this in the cons.

## Personal Opinion
Insert why you think this book would be good to read, personally and for the book club.

### Pros and Cons

**Pros**
* Insert pros here.

**Cons**
* Insert cons here.

## Pictures

[details=“First Three Pages of Chapter One”]

Insert images here (can be photos from you or from eBook previews).

[/details]

[details=“Additional Pages”]

Insert a few more representative images here.

[/details]

List of Removed Nominations

N/A

Current Proposals

See the linked nomination posts for more information, including sample pages. Also browsable on Natively

The difficulty scores come from Natively, where they are ranked by other language learners.
18/20, 2 spots available, you can nominate anytime!

1. クプルムの花嫁

Nomination Post

2. NANA―ナナ―

Nomination Post

3. 3月のライオン

Nomination Post

4. ミステリと言う勿れ

Nomination Post

5. かぐや様は告らせたい〜天才たちの恋愛頭脳戦~ (Kaguya-sama: Love is War)

Nomination Post

6. ご注文はうさぎですか? / Is the Order a Rabbit?

Nomination Post

7.幸せのマチ

Nomination Post

8. 蟲師 / Mushishi

Nomination Post

9. ふしぎの国のバード / UNBEATEN TRACKS in JAPAN

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10. 棺担ぎのクロ。~懐中旅話~

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11. ふたつのスピカ

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12. ダンジャン飯 / Dungeon Meshi

Nomination Post

13. ちびまる子ちゃん

Nomination Post

14. 日本の歴史 1 日本のはじまり 旧石器~縄文・弥生~古墳時代

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15. 銀の匙 / Silver Spoon

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16. 海月姫 / Princess Jellyfish

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17. ハクメイとミコチ / Hakumei & Mikochi: Tiny Little Life in the Woods

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18.理系が恋に落ちたので証明してみた

Nomination Post


Previous Picks

Also browsable as a list on Natively

*** currently continuing as an offshoot club
+++ continued as an offshoot club, currently in hiatus
ooo entire series completed as an offshoot club

We always read just the first volume of a series (sometimes we read a ‘Master’ edition which incorporates the first two volumes of an original run). Sometimes, if a particular pick was enjoyed by many people who want to continue reading it together, that pick will continue to run as a parallel offshoot, reading the subsequent volumes.


Where to Purchase Books

This section explains where to buy Japanese books in general; see the nominations above for links to purchase specific books.

Purchasing Japanese Books

Physical books:

Note that you need a separate account for each ‘instance’ of Amazon, so you won’t be able to use Amazon JP with e.g. your French Amazon account. Amazon adds an estimated customs charge to your bill which will be refunded if you don’t have to pay customs (or pay less).

CDJapan has economy shipping options which take longer to arrive but cost less.

If you can’t find an online store that will ship to you, you can use a forwarding service like Tenso or White Rabbit Express. If you live in the right place, you may also be able to find the book at a local Japanese book store such as Kinokuniya; just Google your area.

eBooks:

Sirvorn has a wonderful guide to purchasing eBooks from Amazon JP.



Historic Polls


"Next Book" Polls

Winner links go to the original nominations.

Other Polls


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Let’s start by giving it two weeks for nominations, then we’ll have a poll to choose a pick, and then a poll to choose when to start :slight_smile:

よろしくお願いいたします!

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Nomination post :slight_smile:

とんがり帽子のアトリエ

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Author: 白浜 鴎
Page count: 208
Natively: Level 26

Summary

Japanese

小さな村の少女・ココは、昔から魔法使いにあこがれを抱いていた。だが、生まれた時から魔法を使えない人は魔法使いになれないし、魔法をかける瞬間を見てはならない……。そのため、魔法使いになる夢は諦めていた。だが、ある日、村を訪れた魔法使い・キーフリーが魔法を使うところを見てしまい……。これは少女に訪れた、絶望と希望の物語。

English

(Translated with DeepL Translate: The world's most accurate translator (free version))Coco, a young girl from a small village, has always longed to be a wizard. However, a person who cannot use magic from birth cannot become a wizard and must not be seen at the moment of casting a spell … Therefore, she had given up her dream of becoming a wizard. But one day, she saw a wizard, Keefley, who visited her village and saw her use magic … This is a story of despair and hope for a young girl.

Availability

Physical:
amazon.co.jp
CD Japan
Amazon US
Honto
Rakuten
Ebook:
Bookwalker affiliate link
Ebook Japan
Renta!

Personal Opinion

Beautiful art and interesting story, I haven’t tried it myself but I hear this book is popular! In 2020, the series won the Harvey Award for the Best Manga category as well as the Eisner Award for Best U.S. Edition of International Material—Asia.

Pros and Cons for the Book Club

Pros

  • The series has 12 books (I believe it is ongoing) and an anime has been announced

Cons

  • ?

Pictures

First Three Pages of Chapter One


Additional Pages



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NANA―ナナ―

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Author: 矢沢 あい
Page count: 184
Natively: Level 29

Summary

Japanese

幸せの名をもつ少女が自らの意志で、運命を、切り拓く…。小松奈々と大崎ナナ…同じ名前を持つ2人の少女が繰り広げる、感動の恋のストーリー! 2人の「ナナ」、それぞれの幸せはどこにある…?

English

A girl with a happy name creates her own destiny by her own will… Nana Komatsu and Nana Osaki… A touching love story of two girls with the same name! Two “Nana”, where is the happiness for each of them…?

Availability

Amazon JP
BookWalker affiliate link
CD Japan
Amazon US
eBook Japan
Honto
Rakuten
Amazon Kindle JP
Kinokuniya JP

Personal Opinion

This is my personal favorite and one of the reasons for which I am learning Japanese is to re-read it. I think I am about to be ready for it, so I thought why not nominate it and see if there are more people who want to read it together.

Pros and Cons for the Book Club

Pros

  • Very popular series, quoting Wikipedia: " In 2002, Nana won the 48th Shogakukan Manga Award for shōjo category. As of September 2019, the manga had over 50 million copies in circulation, making it one of the best-selling manga series."
  • I never know what to write in pros / cons, if anyone has an input I’ll be happy to edit the post!

Cons

  • The first volume doesn’t really have chapters and page numbers are not always visible
  • A bit old (2000), I haven’t reread it as an adult and not sure if it is one of those that have aged well
  • The series is unfinished, the last volume came out in 2009

Pictures

First Three Pages of Chapter One



Additional Pages



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Maybe I’ll sneak in a couple of nominations here.

Not sure about “MEIBC” as an acronym, though. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I’m not gonna nominate anything for now because I want とんがり帽子のアトリエ to win :laughing:

I think MIBC would be fine.

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Solid picks already.

I’m reserving dunmeshi and ms elf. Will do an effort post later.

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Nice, I was counting on that!

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I do actually have the first volume of とんがり帽子のアトリエ bought and sitting in my to-be-read pile - might actually hop in on this one if it’s chosen!

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Ahaha as soon as I saw this thread, this was the manga that immediately popped into my mind! This club is such a fun idea, I’m only just entering into the world of novels so I’m generally very intimidated by the IBC. But this is much more on my level ^–^

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I never voted for とんがり since I already read it in my native language, but I recently got a paperback copy in Japanese. I would love to reread that one! It’s soo beautiful, both the artwork and the worldbuilding :two_hearts:

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Time to step further out of my comfort zone, I think :smile: Interesting nominations so far!

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How about IMC (Intermediate Manga Club)?

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It’s a bit ambiguous – when I read the thread title my first interpretation was “IBC that excludes manga and reads only books”, in the same way that “tax-exclusive” means “without tax”…

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Is Manga Only IBC better? :thinking: MOIBC

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Looking at my plan to read list on natively, I might do nominations for Made In Abyss and Is the Order a Rabbit?.

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I reckon I’d advise against that. That particular book was removed from the voting by consensus decision last time it was nominated not because it was too difficult or it wasn’t getting the votes, but rather because it’s a bit more, uh… controversial than our usual fare.

Or just Intermediate Manga Club? IMC. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Con for とんがり帽子 is that the (series) story progresses extremely slowly. The first volume is a solid pick though.

This is only level 24 on Natively. It is one of my favorite series though, and is very unlikely to work for BBC or IBC. (Plus I’d love if more people would get into 4-koma.)

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How do people want the club to handle ungraded manga on Natively? Have the submitter make a judgement call or ask for opinions before nominating?

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Ah, so it is. I was going based on it previously being rejected from the BBC for being too hard (though based on the old in thread poll difficulty assessment)

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